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Old Apr 3rd 2012, 11:38 am
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Hi All,

We are thinking of adding a Granny Flat to our existing home - has anyone done this?
We are due to get a quote tomorrow to give us a better idea of cost. We definitely need to upsize but didn't know whether to buy a house with more rooms or add on to our existing house. I mean how much value will it add to the house?
Its purpose would be for those overseas visitors that come and stay, including my mum who often stays for a couple of months. We are also considering an au pair, so it may come in handy for that too.

Would love to hear others advice on this?
Many thanks
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Originally Posted by sylvesterthecat
Hi All,

We are thinking of adding a Granny Flat to our existing home - has anyone done this?
We are due to get a quote tomorrow to give us a better idea of cost. We definitely need to upsize but didn't know whether to buy a house with more rooms or add on to our existing house. I mean how much value will it add to the house?
Its purpose would be for those overseas visitors that come and stay, including my mum who often stays for a couple of months. We are also considering an au pair, so it may come in handy for that too.

Would love to hear others advice on this?
Many thanks
Lisa
Why would yer mum need an au pair
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We extended... Had we known then what we know now, ie the grey nomads are coming to live with us at the end of may forever, we would have built a granny flat ... Now they are taking half our house and converting it... At huge extra cost....

Extending is STOOPID expensive in comparison to building a brand new house
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We extended... Had we known then what we know now, ie the grey nomads are coming to live with us at the end of may forever, we would have built a granny flat ... Now they are taking half our house and converting it... At huge extra cost....

Extending is STOOPID expensive in comparison to building a brand new house
When do you reckon the grey nomads will be coming?
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When do you reckon the grey nomads will be coming?
They leave the UK on the 29th May... Not sure which day they arrive,

They are currently doing The Grand Tour of relatives... Saying goodbye... Visiting places etc etc etc....
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Dont know where you are Sylvestercat... But Xtra construction on Compton Rd in shocko did ours for us....

They were brilliant....

And have some one attached who will draw up plans for you....

And one of the worlds best brickies working for them too (thought I'd better mention that)
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I'd have to wonder what the cost comparison was between a granny annex and selling your existing house and building a totally new house, with space, elsewhere?

Hell, with the subdividing and doubling up it might even be better to build a whole small house in the garden, such that you could sell both separately.

All of which depends on if you could find land where you would want to live, or if you want to give up your garden.

Probably best to run some rough numbers on the different potential scenarios to see how they stack up. I'm thinking an attached granny annex might not cut it value/cost wise against the alternatives.
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We are adding a Granny flat onto the back of our house for the MIL.

It is incorporating an existing spare bedroom and ensuite plus the addition of two extra rooms to make a fully contained(with her own front door but also lockable access to the main house) 1 bedroom, 1 living room, kitchen and bathroom home. It will be designed in such a way that it is adaptable in the future..........Pool room/ gym, rentable annex for an income, attractive as an office/work area for a home business for when we come to sell in the future.

That's all I have at present... as we are currently waiting for a quote from our builder (don't hold your breath ) We are expecting it to come in around $50,000 all up, the MIL is paying and that money will be part of our inheritance as it is adding to our home.

We are thinking that as we live in an already big house on small acreage it will add to it's saleability more so than it's value in the future. I have no intention of EVER moving again until we are physically incapable of maintaining this property.....so over moving
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We are adding a Granny flat onto the back of our house for the MIL.

It is incorporating an existing spare bedroom and ensuite plus the addition of two extra rooms to make a fully contained(with her own front door but also lockable access to the main house) 1 bedroom, 1 living room, kitchen and bathroom home. It will be designed in such a way that it is adaptable in the future..........Pool room/ gym, rentable annex for an income, attractive as an office/work area for a home business for when we come to sell in the future.

That's all I have at present... as we are currently waiting for a quote from our builder (don't hold your breath ) We are expecting it to come in around $50,000 all up, the MIL is paying and that money will be part of our inheritance as it is adding to our home.

We are thinking that as we live in an already big house on small acreage it will add to it's saleability more so than it's value in the future. I have no intention of EVER moving again until we are physically incapable of maintaining this property.....so over moving
Wow, great. We were looking at an extension (60m2 rectangle on the back of the house) and the cost was coming in an extortionate quarter mil. I've been thinking for a while that the guys who quoted didn't want the work (or I wasn't able to convey what I wanted well enough).... If i could squeek it in for under a ton I'd be there with bells on, but anyway, that's off topic..
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Wow, great. We were looking at an extension (60m2 rectangle on the back of the house) and the cost was coming in an extortionate quarter mil. I've been thinking for a while that the guys who quoted didn't want the work (or I wasn't able to convey what I wanted well enough).... If i could squeek it in for under a ton I'd be there with bells on, but anyway, that's off topic..
You would be looking at a minimum of $2000/m2
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Hi All,

We are thinking of adding a Granny Flat to our existing home - has anyone done this?
We are due to get a quote tomorrow to give us a better idea of cost. We definitely need to upsize but didn't know whether to buy a house with more rooms or add on to our existing house. I mean how much value will it add to the house?
Its purpose would be for those overseas visitors that come and stay, including my mum who often stays for a couple of months. We are also considering an au pair, so it may come in handy for that too.

Would love to hear others advice on this?
Many thanks
Lisa
It will probably be cheaper to extend. Selling and buying costs will be quite a lot and around $2000/m2 to build a granny flat. Give or take.
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Hi All

Thanks for your insightful replies. We got a quote for a Granny Flat at $77K however, the positioning of it would look quite imposing and as they are built of concrete and plasterboard rather than brick, would not look good as an addition but could be considered as a separate structure. We are on a near 800m2 block in the northern suburbs of Perth so are now considering a brick extension to incorporate a bedroom, open plan kitchen living space (for children and general living area) - this in itself will probably come up to approx $100k - or we could move...again....

Thanks again
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Re the Au Pair... bear in mind the Federal Award and Minimum wage. You could end up breaking the employment laws unwittingly and end up 1,000's of dollars out of pocket, especially if they fall out with you and claim back pay, even after a private agreement.

19 bucks per hour which is circa the minimum wage x 24 hours a day, less rent could work out far more expensive than you expect.

I think the above is why we dont have Au Pairs in Aus.



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Re the Au Pair... bear in mind the Federal Award and Minimum wage. You could end up breaking the employment laws unwittingly and end up 1,000's of dollars out of pocket, especially if they fall out with you and claim back pay, even after a private agreement.

19 bucks per hour which is circa the minimum wage x 24 hours a day, less rent could work out far more expensive than you expect.

I think the above is why we dont have Au Pairs in Aus.



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I'm planning on getting an au pair when I've finished spawning and go back to work - when I researched it came out at around $1200 per month (maybe a bit more for 3 kids) - This strikes me as pretty good value for babysitting while I'm at work - don't know why it's so cheap but they're not expected to work 24 hrs per day - that's gently paid slavery - or maybe it's because au pairs are generally non-nationals on short term visas (like in the UK) so they aren't eligible for minimum wage - or maybe they get round it cos they call it giving them 'pocket money' so they're actually volunteers in that respect. A quick Google Aus search brings up a page of specialist agencies for au pairs (didn't bother going to the next page) so I'm optimistic it's doable
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Originally Posted by sylvesterthecat
Hi All

Thanks for your insightful replies. We got a quote for a Granny Flat at $77K however, the positioning of it would look quite imposing and as they are built of concrete and plasterboard rather than brick, would not look good as an addition but could be considered as a separate structure. We are on a near 800m2 block in the northern suburbs of Perth so are now considering a brick extension to incorporate a bedroom, open plan kitchen living space (for children and general living area) - this in itself will probably come up to approx $100k - or we could move...again....

Thanks again
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I would deffo go the brick route... When we extended ( shortly to be taken as the granny flat) the cost between steel framed addition and brick wasnt big enough to warrant going the frame route.... Frankly it wasnt good value for money....

Next job is the conversion of half the double garage into a room ...... But we discovered our garage is illegal, it has no step down in case of fuel spills... The house was built this way in 83 and no one has picked up on it til now
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