First Electricity Bill
Oct 29th 2014, 3:11 am
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One meter for normal supply and the 2nd for what may be called off peak, but depending on what State you are in, often runs 18 hours per day for the hot water.
Having 2 or 3 meters is normal.
Your Off Peak Usage is weird, way too high, and that may only be the water heater. That may not be working properly.
Check the off peak meter every hour for 2 or 3 hours and see how much it changes. Then, if you can, turn off the water heater, and check again.
That picture of the air con/water tank looks like the same type of water heater I used. Mine seemed to never turn off till I got it fixed.
Having 2 or 3 meters is normal.
Your Off Peak Usage is weird, way too high, and that may only be the water heater. That may not be working properly.
Check the off peak meter every hour for 2 or 3 hours and see how much it changes. Then, if you can, turn off the water heater, and check again.
That picture of the air con/water tank looks like the same type of water heater I used. Mine seemed to never turn off till I got it fixed.
The Electric hotwater system could well be the culprit Molly.
Oct 29th 2014, 6:39 am
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Interesting you mention the water heater as we've had problems with it and it stopped working completely. We called a plumber out who told us it hadn't been touched (upgraded/checked) since the day it was fitted.
I'll try those checks and see what happens. What do you mean by it never seemed to turn off?
Thanks.
I'll try those checks and see what happens. What do you mean by it never seemed to turn off?
Thanks.
Oct 29th 2014, 6:42 am
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To encourage the electricity distribution businesses to complete outstanding installations as soon as possible, new regulations announced in mid-November 2013 will require them to continue to install smart meters after the end of 2013. If a distribution business has not attempted to install a smart meter in a Victorian business or home by 30 June 2014, the customer at that premises will be entitled to a rebate provided the customer has not refused the installation of a smart meter.
Smart Meters - About smart meters
Smart Meters - About smart meters
Oct 30th 2014, 5:05 am
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The water is not actually boiling, never has been even before the boiler broke.
It never gets so hot that it scolds, ever.
I'll show you the meters, see what you think.
Oct 30th 2014, 5:17 am
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I know one thing from this whole experience. I won't ever go for a 'traditional' property again. Our next house will be a new build, that's if I haven't gone home by then. Lol!
Moving country is stressful enough without having to cope with a crap rental that has multiple things going wrong with it. Which incidentally costs an absolute bloody fortune because of the area it's in, which is all well and dandy if everything flipping worked!
Right,rant over!
Moving country is stressful enough without having to cope with a crap rental that has multiple things going wrong with it. Which incidentally costs an absolute bloody fortune because of the area it's in, which is all well and dandy if everything flipping worked!
Right,rant over!
Oct 30th 2014, 5:58 am
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Definitely smart meters, one looks like it's dedicated off peak, but i got that from the switchboard rather than the meters themselves. Not sure what the meter codes are yet..... 4 and 6. It's looking more and more like it is your hot water that is the problem to me though. Not sure what you do about that, as it's not broken, just using lots of power. Is there a thermostat on the Hot water that you can turn down ?
I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
What brand is your water heater can you see anything on it ?
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I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
What brand is your water heater can you see anything on it ?
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Oct 30th 2014, 8:23 am
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Definitely smart meters, one looks like it's dedicated off peak, but i got that from the switchboard rather than the meters themselves. Not sure what the meter codes are yet..... 4 and 6. It's looking more and more like it is your hot water that is the problem to me though. Not sure what you do about that, as it's not broken, just using lots of power. Is there a thermostat on the Hot water that you can turn down ?
I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
What brand is your water heater can you see anything on it ?
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I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
What brand is your water heater can you see anything on it ?
.
Oct 30th 2014, 12:26 pm
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(ie. too much cold water being let through )
Adjusting tempering valve or not - Green tech
Elgas has a good explanation of all the various tempering valves
Tempering Valves | Hot Water Systems | ELGAS - LPG Gas for Home & Business
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Oct 30th 2014, 12:42 pm
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I know one thing from this whole experience. I won't ever go for a 'traditional' property again. Our next house will be a new build, that's if I haven't gone home by then. Lol!
Moving country is stressful enough without having to cope with a crap rental that has multiple things going wrong with it. Which incidentally costs an absolute bloody fortune because of the area it's in, which is all well and dandy if everything flipping worked!
Right,rant over!
Moving country is stressful enough without having to cope with a crap rental that has multiple things going wrong with it. Which incidentally costs an absolute bloody fortune because of the area it's in, which is all well and dandy if everything flipping worked!
Right,rant over!
Oct 30th 2014, 7:49 pm
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Same here. Coming all this way and starting over is never easy. In terms of getting the right balance for our needs as tenants, it took us three moves first. Molly, have you tried chatting with the letting agents about it? maybe they can suggest what's wrong or will help you look into it further...
Oct 30th 2014, 10:42 pm
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Definitely smart meters, one looks like it's dedicated off peak, but i got that from the switchboard rather than the meters themselves. Not sure what the meter codes are yet..... 4 and 6. It's looking more and more like it is your hot water that is the problem to me though. Not sure what you do about that, as it's not broken, just using lots of power. Is there a thermostat on the Hot water that you can turn down ?
I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
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I didn't realise they replaced a dedicated off peak meter with a seperate smart meter as the Smart meters can measure this themselves... Probably simpler because it was a seperate circuit.
.
Yep it's a Rheem, I'm going to call my plumber and ask him if he can turn it down, or up, or whatever the case maybe. He's a sound guy, so hopefully he'll be able to help. Cheers Ozzie.
Sounds like the tempering valve is set too low
(ie. too much cold water being let through )
Adjusting tempering valve or not - Green tech
Elgas has a good explanation of all the various tempering valves
Tempering Valves | Hot Water Systems | ELGAS - LPG Gas for Home & Business
(ie. too much cold water being let through )
Adjusting tempering valve or not - Green tech
Elgas has a good explanation of all the various tempering valves
Tempering Valves | Hot Water Systems | ELGAS - LPG Gas for Home & Business
Same here. Coming all this way and starting over is never easy. In terms of getting the right balance for our needs as tenants, it took us three moves first. Molly, have you tried chatting with the letting agents about it? maybe they can suggest what's wrong or will help you look into it further...
Thanks.
Oct 30th 2014, 10:48 pm
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I'm a bit embarrassed about my little rant now. I was just having a crap day.
It's been a bit tough the last few weeks regarding trying to get settled in.
Getting kids in school has proved to be a bit of a mission ( still only got one child in) husbands job has been delayed because of government disagreements,so he's had to go back to London to he's old job for now, the house is falling to bits, Well, that might be a slight exaggeration, but you get my drift!
You have to laugh honestly!Anyway the main thing is my family and I are all well and healthy.
I shouldn't grumble as I'm sure we'll get there in the end. Life just likes to throw these little challenges at us but I 'm sure I'll survive.
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Oct 31st 2014, 2:05 am
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I'm wondering if that water heater is also driving your underfloor heating, it looks to be a big one. I doubt if it is, but maybe.
Maybe your plumber can explain those meters to you as well and what exactly the off peak one is measuring, the hotwater and/or the heating. My meter has the number 1 written next to it, so that's got me very intrigued about yours.
You also have 3 phase power written on your meters, I've checked mine and mine doesn't... Now 3 phase generally indicates a power supply of over 50amps to a household and the house has to be wired up differently from the street. 3 phase normally only goes to businesses.... So you have a few questions for your plumber there. If it is 3 phase, then why ?
Basically 3 phase means instead of two loops coming in from the pole on the street you have a heavier supply of 4 loops.
Maybe your plumber can explain those meters to you as well and what exactly the off peak one is measuring, the hotwater and/or the heating. My meter has the number 1 written next to it, so that's got me very intrigued about yours.
You also have 3 phase power written on your meters, I've checked mine and mine doesn't... Now 3 phase generally indicates a power supply of over 50amps to a household and the house has to be wired up differently from the street. 3 phase normally only goes to businesses.... So you have a few questions for your plumber there. If it is 3 phase, then why ?
Basically 3 phase means instead of two loops coming in from the pole on the street you have a heavier supply of 4 loops.
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Oct 31st 2014, 2:25 am
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I'm wondering if that water heater is also driving your underfloor heating, it looks to be a big one. I doubt if it is, but maybe.
Maybe your plumber can explain those meters to you as well and what exactly the off peak one is measuring, the hotwater and/or the heating. My meter has the number 1 written next to it, so that's got me very intrigued about yours.
You also have 3 phase power written on your meters, I've checked mine and mine doesn't... Now 3 phase generally indicates a power supply of over 35Kwh (or is it 50kwh I ask myself) to a household and the house has to be wired up differently from the street. 3 phase normally only goes to businesses.... So you have a few questions for your plumber there. If it is 3 phase, then why ?
Basically 3 phase means instead of two loops coming in from the pole on the street you have a heavier supply of 3 loops.
Maybe your plumber can explain those meters to you as well and what exactly the off peak one is measuring, the hotwater and/or the heating. My meter has the number 1 written next to it, so that's got me very intrigued about yours.
You also have 3 phase power written on your meters, I've checked mine and mine doesn't... Now 3 phase generally indicates a power supply of over 35Kwh (or is it 50kwh I ask myself) to a household and the house has to be wired up differently from the street. 3 phase normally only goes to businesses.... So you have a few questions for your plumber there. If it is 3 phase, then why ?
Basically 3 phase means instead of two loops coming in from the pole on the street you have a heavier supply of 3 loops.
Oct 31st 2014, 2:28 am
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How is your usage tracking day by day now?