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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Barbie (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/)
-   -   The Falklands (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/falklands-748702/)

hoofie2002 Feb 16th 2012 5:54 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 9906142)
too many good men and boys died to appease their political masters and that whore thatcher
FFS - even Michael Foot at the time backed military action knowing full well that if it worked his chances of government were nil. He was enough of a man to know when the needs of the country and it's people [including those from the Falklands] overrode his own principals.

Have a read of this then.

hoofie2002 Feb 16th 2012 5:55 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9906213)
If defending them gets Thatcher back in power then break out the gift wrapping and bunting.
Amen

Wol Feb 16th 2012 5:56 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by exsquaddie (Post 9906404)
Agree thanks to the latest cuts , but you have to remember that the Argies have limited military resources now also and there is a viable airlink to MPA via Ascension which didnt exist in 82
It did - I was in line to do it.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 16th 2012 6:36 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 9906142)
Sean penn may shoot his mouth off,but he often put's his money where his mouth is,the work that man,and fabulous actor does for charity is incredible,as for the Falklands,too many good men and boys died to appease their political masters and that whore thatcher:thumbdown:
You know the deal as well as I do. Soldiers get sent to fight by politicians. That's just the way it is.

Sean Penn needs to think a bit more before opening his mouth, but he's allowed an opinion. In my view it was the wrong opinion this time.

The Falklands will stay British, until the people of the Falklands change their minds, or Britain looses the ability and/or will, to defend it. The latter of those two options is likely to come first.

papilon Feb 16th 2012 6:41 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by stevenglish (Post 9906489)
Not so different to what Thatcher did 30 years ago

Oh and Penn should keep his gob shut
Although Thatch benefited from the war she did not start it and was morally right in her defence of the Falklands.

chris955 Feb 16th 2012 6:46 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
She was absolutely 100% right.

Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9906559)
Although Thatch benefited from the war she did not start it and was morally right in her defence of the Falklands.

Kooky. Feb 16th 2012 6:51 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9906561)
She was absolutely 100% right.
You say that as if it's a fact; it's an opinion.

stevenglish Feb 16th 2012 7:05 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9906559)
Although Thatch benefited from the war she did not start it and was morally right in her defence of the Falklands.
Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9906561)
She was absolutely 100% right.
HMS Endurance was withdrawn from patrolling the area around the Falkland Islands. The move prompted an invasion by the Argentine military and led to the Falklands War.

Thatcher was many things, but she wasn't stupid and naive enough to think this move would be without consequences. So the only possible explanation is that she engineered the whole episode, in my humble opinion obviously

ROMFT_WO2RN Feb 16th 2012 7:06 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 9906564)
You say that as if it's a fact; it's an opinion.
so when is defending your citizens from foreign military aggression NOT 100% right then :confused:

DeadVim Feb 16th 2012 7:09 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by papilon (Post 9906559)
Although Thatch benefited from the war she did not start it and was morally right in her defence of the Falklands.
I'm not going to argue with that, can't have every Tom, Dick and Carlos planting their flag where they feel like it.

<Obligatory French Military Joke Suppressed Due To 3 Month Contract>

Originally Posted by stevenglish (Post 9906578)
HMS Endurance was withdrawn from patrolling the area around the Falkland Islands. The move prompted an invasion by the Argentine military and led to the Falklands War.

Thatcher was many things, but she wasn't stupid and naive enough to think this move would be without consequences. So the only possible explanation is that she engineered the whole episode, in my humble opinion obviously
That's a fair stretch of the imagination but I wouldn't put it past the witch.

Wol Feb 16th 2012 7:10 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
>>So the only possible explanation is that she engineered the whole episode, in my humble opinion obviously<<

What planet do you live on? Is it nice? Does it rain as much as here? :sneaky:

stevenglish Feb 16th 2012 7:16 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by Wol (Post 9906584)
>>So the only possible explanation is that she engineered the whole episode, in my humble opinion obviously<<

What planet do you live on? Is it nice? Does it rain as much as here? :sneaky:
What may I ask is so implausible about it?

ROMFT_WO2RN Feb 16th 2012 7:22 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by stevenglish (Post 9906578)
HMS Endurance was withdrawn from patrolling the area around the Falkland Islands. The move prompted an invasion by the Argentine military and led to the Falklands War.

Thatcher was many things, but she wasn't stupid and naive enough to think this move would be without consequences. So the only possible explanation is that she engineered the whole episode, in my humble opinion obviously
So nothing to do with the rest of the naval cuts instigated by John Nott in 1981 then? Scrapping both LPD's, sale of Invincible to Australia, reductions in RFA, FF and DD numbers etc etc?? The prime role of Endurance and her replacements was and still is Austral summer summer support to the British Antarctic survey.

Of course it was nowt to do with the Junta needing to distract from a sh!te economy with a good old bit of jingoistic military adventurism :rolleyes:

stevenglish Feb 16th 2012 7:24 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN (Post 9906599)
So nothing to do with the rest of the naval cuts instigated by John Nott in 1981 then? Scrapping both LPD's, sale of Invincible to Australia, reductions in RFA, FF and DD numbers etc etc?? The prime role of Endurance and her replacements was and still is Austral summer summer support to the British Antarctic survey.

Of course it was nowt to do with the Junta needing to distract from a sh!te economy with a good old bit of jingoistic military adventurism :rolleyes:
Just coincidence then, ok

ROMFT_WO2RN Feb 16th 2012 7:29 pm
Re: The Falklands
 
Originally Posted by stevenglish (Post 9906600)
Just coincidence then, ok
so the withdrawal of a survey ship, not warship, is the reason not the planned reduction in actual military capability ?

Maybe you should go and have a chat with the aliens in area 51 and the bloke from the grassy knoll whilst wearing a tinfoil hat :zzz:


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