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Old Aug 21st 2010, 11:57 pm
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Yeah sorry about that I forgot the link. It happens when you are " a crazy nut job"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/de...hilcot-inquiry


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What's "a start"?
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Yeah sorry about that I forgot the link. It happens when you are " a crazy nut job"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/de...hilcot-inquiry
Unless I'm missing something what exactly does that prove?

That the British Government were determined to invade Iraq and remove Sadam regardless? Well we knew that anyway.

Are you claiming that because Blair is now admitting that fact, that he lied and made up evidence that WMD existed, when in fact they didn't?
If you are, I can't see where that article helps your claim.
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Old Aug 22nd 2010, 12:40 am
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What it does prove is that Blair cannot be trusted and that he was at best misleading the public when trying to convince us to go to war. Everyone knows the real reasons that the invasion of Iraq took place but at the time if they had said we want to invade Iraq for the vast amounts of oil and to start to destabilize a region it never would have happened. It turned out there never were any WMD's and some people including Dr Kelly were convinced of that FACT. Now is it so far fetched that a man who admits they wanted to got to war anyway and would have come up with something else had the WMD lie been rejected could have possible distorted the evidence to make it seem that they did exist.? How many people have since died because he went to war based on evidence that did not exist and then years later when the dust has settled on the debate admits they would have found any reason anyway, of course who cares if its true or not, its only people dying isn't it and a little thing called justice.
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Unless I'm missing something what exactly does that prove?

That the British Government were determined to invade Iraq and remove Sadam regardless? Well we knew that anyway.

Are you claiming that because Blair is now admitting that fact, that he lied and made up evidence that WMD existed, when in fact they didn't?
If you are, I can't see where that article helps your claim.
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Originally Posted by easty1976
What it does prove is that Blair cannot be trusted and that he was at best misleading the public when trying to convince us to go to war. Everyone knows the real reasons that the invasion of Iraq took place but at the time if they had said we want to invade Iraq for the vast amounts of oil and to start to destabilize a region it never would have happened. It turned out there never were any WMD's and some people including Dr Kelly were convinced of that FACT. Now is it so far fetched that a man who admits they wanted to got to war anyway and would have come up with something else had the WMD lie been rejected could have possible distorted the evidence to make it seem that they did exist.? How many people have since died because he went to war based on evidence that did not exist and then years later when the dust has settled on the debate admits they would have found any reason anyway, of course who cares if its true or not, its only people dying isn't it and a little thing called justice.
Everyone does NOT know that we went to war in Iraq for oil because its not the case... not that I expect you to except that.
We, and a whole host of other countries, went to war because they considered Iraq to be a threat. You might not like that fact, as it probably doesn't fit with what you want to believe, but there it is.

As for Kelly being convinced that there were no WMD, he himself had said earlier that he thought that the Iraqi's still had biological weapons.

"and a little thing called justice" Justice for what and who?
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Originally Posted by easty1976
What it does prove is that Blair cannot be trusted and that he was at best misleading the public when trying to convince us to go to war. Everyone knows the real reasons that the invasion of Iraq took place but at the time if they had said we want to invade Iraq for the vast amounts of oil and to start to destabilize a region it never would have happened. It turned out there never were any WMD's and some people including Dr Kelly were convinced of that FACT. Now is it so far fetched that a man who admits they wanted to got to war anyway and would have come up with something else had the WMD lie been rejected could have possible distorted the evidence to make it seem that they did exist.? How many people have since died because he went to war based on evidence that did not exist and then years later when the dust has settled on the debate admits they would have found any reason anyway, of course who cares if its true or not, its only people dying isn't it and a little thing called justice.
The whole world new about Kelly's opinions before he was allegedly murdered to cover them up?? I know that govt's world wide make stupendous balls up's but I've never heard of one closing a stable door so publicly and pointlessly before
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That the murderous Christian hypocrite Blair killed him is not a conspiracy theory.
It's just a logical progression from the facts and from his other behaviour (Form)
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Originally Posted by twhurl
That the murderous Christian hypocrite Blair killed him is not a conspiracy theory.
It's just a logical progression from the facts and from his other behaviour (Form)
This would sound great shouted while running round a shopping mall waving your arms in the air
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
Suicide is self-murder, so either way it's murder.
Well now we have the culprit,Dr Kelly










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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly
Well now we have the culprit,Dr Kelly


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You felt all of WHICH Mod, like?!!!
Stripped of my MOD powers so soon in my career,i thought i'd closed this silly thread,oh the shame
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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly
Stripped of my MOD powers so soon in my career,i thought i'd closed this silly thread,oh the shame
You have to wave your magic wand at the same time as saying the words "Thread closed"
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Originally Posted by rinkerdink
This would sound great shouted while running round a shopping mall waving your arms in the air
OH yeah, I forgot, Thats true. any conspiracy theory has to be spoken like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory with a twitch and some foam coming out of your mouth
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
You have to wave your magic wand at the same time as saying the words "Thread closed"
For every thread you close and poster you ban , your wand grows longer and harder
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Originally Posted by twhurl
For every thread you close and poster you ban , your wand grows longer and harder
The amount of spam on here some days I must have a wand of solid steel by now
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Originally Posted by twhurl
For every thread you close and poster you ban , your wand grows longer and harder
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The amount of spam on here some days I must have a wand of solid steel by now
It's called a broomstick init?

or maybe a broom-saber - diju-diju-diju... kish-kish-kish

Arrghhhhhhhhh...

and then silence.



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