View Poll Results: Do you smoke? (anonymous poll)
Yes
8
10.96%
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31
42.47%
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34
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Do You Smoke?
Jan 24th 2012, 2:34 am
#61
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by bcworld
Why would you assume that?
Jan 24th 2012, 2:38 am
#62
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I thought it was 'a given' that anyone who goes against accepted anti-smoking doctrine had to be in the pockets of the cig companies. No?
Jan 24th 2012, 2:42 am
#63
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by bcworld
Not that I'm aware of. Perhaps in your world that's the way you see it.
Jan 24th 2012, 2:53 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
..and yet you just did exactly that, finding a link, that claims the author of the first report was paid by tobacco companies.
Are you not at all interested in the credentials and background of people who have conducted the research? You only care that you've found a piece of research that supports your predisposed viewpoint? Anyone can do that for any subject.
Personally I find that odd.
Jan 24th 2012, 2:57 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by bcworld
I didn't say anyone who doesn't find a link with passive smoking is paid by tobacco companies though.
Are you not at all interested in the credentials and background of people who have conducted the research? You only care that you've found a piece of research that supports your predisposed viewpoint? Anyone can do that for any subject.
Personally I find that odd.
Are you not at all interested in the credentials and background of people who have conducted the research? You only care that you've found a piece of research that supports your predisposed viewpoint? Anyone can do that for any subject.
Personally I find that odd.
Jan 24th 2012, 3:03 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by bcworld
I didn't say anyone who doesn't find a link with passive smoking is paid by tobacco companies though.
Are you not at all interested in the credentials and background of people who have conducted the research? You only care that you've found a piece of research that supports your predisposed viewpoint? Anyone can do that for any subject.
Personally I find that odd.
Are you not at all interested in the credentials and background of people who have conducted the research? You only care that you've found a piece of research that supports your predisposed viewpoint? Anyone can do that for any subject.
Personally I find that odd.
If one of the riskiest thing you do, is walk past a smoker from time to time, then I'd be very surprised.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to discuss it. I don't even smoke.
Jan 24th 2012, 3:04 am
#67
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by Ptp113
Tossers smoke!
Jan 24th 2012, 3:15 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by DeadVim
Even if you completely discount the health issues not being in the pocket of Big Tobacco is a large motivator for not doing it.
That and being addicted to anything is bad. And the costs. For no benefit (it don't relax you, it doesn't keep you thin, it does nothing a smoker says it does).
I'm not going to go all righteous ex-smoker on yo ass, I understand why people do it and how they justify it.
I was that soldier. 20 years of it.
The "Would you encourage your kids/partner/mother to smoke?" question is one worth pondering. Let's be honest, nobody would and the vast majority of smokers would like to go back to before they started.
To anyone interested and hasn't heard me bang on about it before, I read Allan Carr's "Easy Way To Stop Smoking". It don't preach it just removes the brainwashing.
If you don't want something you can't miss it. No willpower required.
Having said all that the government should make them illegal, stop collecting the tax or STFU with the nannying.
That and being addicted to anything is bad. And the costs. For no benefit (it don't relax you, it doesn't keep you thin, it does nothing a smoker says it does).
I'm not going to go all righteous ex-smoker on yo ass, I understand why people do it and how they justify it.
I was that soldier. 20 years of it.
The "Would you encourage your kids/partner/mother to smoke?" question is one worth pondering. Let's be honest, nobody would and the vast majority of smokers would like to go back to before they started.
To anyone interested and hasn't heard me bang on about it before, I read Allan Carr's "Easy Way To Stop Smoking". It don't preach it just removes the brainwashing.
If you don't want something you can't miss it. No willpower required.
Having said all that the government should make them illegal, stop collecting the tax or STFU with the nannying.
Ex-smoker friend of mine says that tobacco is a rubbish drug - all it does, while you are actually smoking, is stop you from wanting a cigarette.
Jan 24th 2012, 3:37 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Ex-smoker friend of mine says that tobacco is a rubbish drug - all it does, while you are actually smoking, is stop you from wanting a cigarette.
The only thing you are doing is satisfying the craving.
Given what it costs you might as well do the same thing with something herbal, at least you might get something out of it.
A sleep, a smile, a taste for funky basslines, no taste in clothes ...
Jan 24th 2012, 3:43 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by DeadVim
Yeh, it's amazingly pointless isn't it?
The only thing you are doing is satisfying the craving.
Given what it costs you might as well do the same thing with something herbal, at least you might get something out of it.
A sleep, a smile, a taste for funky basslines, no taste in clothes ...
The only thing you are doing is satisfying the craving.
Given what it costs you might as well do the same thing with something herbal, at least you might get something out of it.
A sleep, a smile, a taste for funky basslines, no taste in clothes ...
Jan 24th 2012, 3:45 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
That's unfair, there is no way he has achieved that level on a mere 60 a day 
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
You must be a 60 a day man then?
Jan 24th 2012, 3:48 am
#72
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
And not only that, it now turns out that mushrooms might actually be good for you. Apparently they relieve depression and OCD symptoms. Why we are still selling addictive little heart attack cancer sticks is beyond me.
There are, of course, serious risks.
A liking for tie-died t-shirts and suspect hair to name but two.
Jan 24th 2012, 3:51 am
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by DeadVim
To say nothing of the benefits of cannabis, to some people.
There are, of course, serious risks.
A liking for tie-died t-shirts and suspect hair to name but two.
There are, of course, serious risks.
A liking for tie-died t-shirts and suspect hair to name but two.
Jan 24th 2012, 4:57 am
#74
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Re: Do You Smoke?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
The thing is to give the patient proper support so that he goes down the reggae/ska road and not that of the Grateful Dead.
Jan 24th 2012, 5:04 am
#75
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Re: Do You Smoke?
quit 1996 
