Depression / anxiety
Oct 13th 2013, 10:37 pm
#469
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Excuse me for muddying the discussion. I thought the Barbie was more a 'talk about anything' forum -I saw a post that struck a chord with me and answered it. I'll leave you to it.
Oct 13th 2013, 11:20 pm
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Just an update as the OP of this thread. I have been off all depression / anxiety meds for nearly 8 months 
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
Oct 13th 2013, 11:26 pm
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Just an update as the OP of this thread. I have been off all depression / anxiety meds for nearly 8 months
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
Everyone has bad days - things happen outside of our control, bad news, etc. As long as you recognise it's a bad day, and talk about it if needed, things usually get better. I think we all learn coping mechanisms in one way or another so hopefully you've found what works for you
Oct 13th 2013, 11:31 pm
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Errrm as you said earlier: "I will deal with any side effects as they come up, and keep assuring the doctor that if she stops them again I will just go elsewhere". That sounds like self medicating to me. You are grown up, your choice, you have assessed and balanced the pain versus the risks. And actually, given we are on the Depression/Anxiety thread, I understood you were taking the steroids to deal with depression or anxiety. There seems to be a brigade here who are muddying the discussion with non-mental health treatments and therapies. Nice try though
Likewise with the cannabis pot shot
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I will find a doctor who will work with me to prescribe the medication which works for me. I will not be getting the pills by any method and taking them without medical supervision.
I am not taking them for depression or anxiety, those are a side effect of the original condition. The steroids are actually controlling the side effect of a physical illness by preventing me from being deeply depressed, and yes at times verging on the suicidal. Is that good enough for me to be allowed to post on your thread? Not that I am really bothered, I will just go and post somewhere else, on a thread where I do not get accused of taking "mind-altering drugs" The nearest I get to those - and have ever got - is alcohol, and I'm not sure i want to listen to you lecturing me about that.............
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Paul, with my Mods hat on, I should remind you that people can actually post in whatever threads they like, as long as they do not break forum rules. Therefore they do not have to be posting only about depression/anxiety in order to join "your" thread. it doesn't necessarily "muddy" the discussion, but rather widens it and keeps the conversation alive.
Oct 14th 2013, 12:09 am
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Wrong
I will find a doctor who will work with me to prescribe the medication which works for me. I will not be getting the pills by any method and taking them without medical supervision.
I am not taking them for depression or anxiety, those are a side effect of the original condition. The steroids are actually controlling the side effect of a physical illness by preventing me from being deeply depressed, and yes at times verging on the suicidal. Is that good enough for me to be allowed to post on your thread? Not that I am really bothered, I will just go and post somewhere else, on a thread where I do not get accused of taking "mind-altering drugs" The nearest I get to those - and have ever got - is alcohol, and I'm not sure i want to listen to you lecturing me about that.............
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Paul, with my Mods hat on, I should remind you that people can actually post in whatever threads they like, as long as they do not break forum rules. Therefore they do not have to be posting only about depression/anxiety in order to join "your" thread. it doesn't necessarily "muddy" the discussion, but rather widens it and keeps the conversation alive.
I will find a doctor who will work with me to prescribe the medication which works for me. I will not be getting the pills by any method and taking them without medical supervision.
I am not taking them for depression or anxiety, those are a side effect of the original condition. The steroids are actually controlling the side effect of a physical illness by preventing me from being deeply depressed, and yes at times verging on the suicidal. Is that good enough for me to be allowed to post on your thread? Not that I am really bothered, I will just go and post somewhere else, on a thread where I do not get accused of taking "mind-altering drugs" The nearest I get to those - and have ever got - is alcohol, and I'm not sure i want to listen to you lecturing me about that.............
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Paul, with my Mods hat on, I should remind you that people can actually post in whatever threads they like, as long as they do not break forum rules. Therefore they do not have to be posting only about depression/anxiety in order to join "your" thread. it doesn't necessarily "muddy" the discussion, but rather widens it and keeps the conversation alive.
If people feel they are getting something out of it then great, perhaps mods should change the title to something a little more generic or perhaps shut this one down and start something else afresh ?
Oct 14th 2013, 1:04 am
#474
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Just an update as the OP of this thread. I have been off all depression / anxiety meds for nearly 8 months
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
I still struggle on many fronts but have been coping as well as any time over the last 20 years or so.
It is always in the back of your mind that you could head back down again and I have felt that I have been heading that way some days. But thankfully I seem to be keeping on an even keel these days.
Wrong
I will find a doctor who will work with me to prescribe the medication which works for me. I will not be getting the pills by any method and taking them without medical supervision.
I am not taking them for depression or anxiety, those are a side effect of the original condition. The steroids are actually controlling the side effect of a physical illness by preventing me from being deeply depressed, and yes at times verging on the suicidal. Is that good enough for me to be allowed to post on your thread? Not that I am really bothered, I will just go and post somewhere else, on a thread where I do not get accused of taking "mind-altering drugs" The nearest I get to those - and have ever got - is alcohol, and I'm not sure i want to listen to you lecturing me about that.............
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Paul, with my Mods hat on, I should remind you that people can actually post in whatever threads they like, as long as they do not break forum rules. Therefore they do not have to be posting only about depression/anxiety in order to join "your" thread. it doesn't necessarily "muddy" the discussion, but rather widens it and keeps the conversation alive.
I will find a doctor who will work with me to prescribe the medication which works for me. I will not be getting the pills by any method and taking them without medical supervision.
I am not taking them for depression or anxiety, those are a side effect of the original condition. The steroids are actually controlling the side effect of a physical illness by preventing me from being deeply depressed, and yes at times verging on the suicidal. Is that good enough for me to be allowed to post on your thread? Not that I am really bothered, I will just go and post somewhere else, on a thread where I do not get accused of taking "mind-altering drugs" The nearest I get to those - and have ever got - is alcohol, and I'm not sure i want to listen to you lecturing me about that.............
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Paul, with my Mods hat on, I should remind you that people can actually post in whatever threads they like, as long as they do not break forum rules. Therefore they do not have to be posting only about depression/anxiety in order to join "your" thread. it doesn't necessarily "muddy" the discussion, but rather widens it and keeps the conversation alive.
I have to admit, I find your mod hat off stuff to be a bit contradictory so I'll steer clear from there in that case - too many potholes.
Your mod hat on comments: of course anyone can post anything that they like but on this thread I have always been about encouraging drug free mental health treatments - especially for the young but I found that some of the responses coming through suggested that I disapproved of all drugs used for all ailments. That is what my muddying the water comment was all about.
Otherwise, you know as well as I do that it's not my thread and it never was.
As the OP I didn't start this thread with the intention of it becoming quite this long running.
If people feel they are getting something out of it then great, perhaps mods should change the title to something a little more generic or perhaps shut this one down and start something else afresh ?
If people feel they are getting something out of it then great, perhaps mods should change the title to something a little more generic or perhaps shut this one down and start something else afresh ?
Oct 14th 2013, 5:27 am
#475
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Re: Depression / anxiety
That's great. If you don't mind answering, what strategies did you put in motion to help keep yourself on an even keel?
I have to admit, I find your mod hat off stuff to be a bit contradictory so I'll steer clear from there in that case - too many potholes.
Your mod hat on comments: of course anyone can post anything that they like but on this thread I have always been about encouraging drug free mental health treatments - especially for the young but I found that some of the responses coming through suggested that I disapproved of all drugs used for all ailments. That is what my muddying the water comment was all about.
Otherwise, you know as well as I do that it's not my thread and it never was.
Apart from my belief that talking about mental health problems and awareness of the different ways that people have dealt with them is a benefit to all who are treading that nightmarish path, I have to concede that you as the OP are the thread owner and have every right to ask that it be shut down. Your call really ...Assuming some of the mods and their 2facebook buddies agree, that is.
I have to admit, I find your mod hat off stuff to be a bit contradictory so I'll steer clear from there in that case - too many potholes.
Your mod hat on comments: of course anyone can post anything that they like but on this thread I have always been about encouraging drug free mental health treatments - especially for the young but I found that some of the responses coming through suggested that I disapproved of all drugs used for all ailments. That is what my muddying the water comment was all about.
Otherwise, you know as well as I do that it's not my thread and it never was.
Apart from my belief that talking about mental health problems and awareness of the different ways that people have dealt with them is a benefit to all who are treading that nightmarish path, I have to concede that you as the OP are the thread owner and have every right to ask that it be shut down. Your call really ...Assuming some of the mods and their 2facebook buddies agree, that is.
Medication has it's place as do many other therapies. They can happily co-exist. The only thing standing in the way is the judgemental attitude you have shown on this thread.
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Oct 14th 2013, 5:38 am
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Re: Depression / anxiety
That's great. If you don't mind answering, what strategies did you put in motion to help keep yourself on an even keel?
I have to admit, I find your mod hat off stuff to be a bit contradictory so I'll steer clear from there in that case - too many potholes.
Your mod hat on comments: of course anyone can post anything that they like but on this thread I have always been about encouraging drug free mental health treatments - especially for the young but I found that some of the responses coming through suggested that I disapproved of all drugs used for all ailments. That is what my muddying the water comment was all about.
Otherwise, you know as well as I do that it's not my thread and it never was.
Apart from my belief that talking about mental health problems and awareness of the different ways that people have dealt with them is a benefit to all who are treading that nightmarish path, I have to concede that you as the OP are the thread owner and have every right to ask that it be shut down. Your call really ...Assuming some of the mods and their 2facebook buddies agree, that is.
I have to admit, I find your mod hat off stuff to be a bit contradictory so I'll steer clear from there in that case - too many potholes.
Your mod hat on comments: of course anyone can post anything that they like but on this thread I have always been about encouraging drug free mental health treatments - especially for the young but I found that some of the responses coming through suggested that I disapproved of all drugs used for all ailments. That is what my muddying the water comment was all about.
Otherwise, you know as well as I do that it's not my thread and it never was.
Apart from my belief that talking about mental health problems and awareness of the different ways that people have dealt with them is a benefit to all who are treading that nightmarish path, I have to concede that you as the OP are the thread owner and have every right to ask that it be shut down. Your call really ...Assuming some of the mods and their 2facebook buddies agree, that is.
Oct 14th 2013, 9:32 am
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Re: Depression / anxiety
I haven't made much contribution to this thread. My daughter was diagnosed with mild depression and our GP chose not to go down the anti-depressant route. Even after an unsuccessful suicide attempt her psychologist didn't feel it necessary. However, we know many other teenagers that take them along with counsellor visits and other advice such as diet and exercise and are just fine.
Medication has it's place as do many other therapies. They can happily co-exist. The only thing standing in the way is the judgemental attitude you have shown on this thread.
Medication has it's place as do many other therapies. They can happily co-exist. The only thing standing in the way is the judgemental attitude you have shown on this thread.
I really don't care what you and your friends opinions are of me. All I know is I have some valuable knowledge to share and for as long as I believe it can help others then I shall continue to spread that message.
Oct 14th 2013, 10:20 am
#478
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Re: Depression / anxiety
You clearly have a great GP. I hope that you share your good fortune and recommend them. From experience I find that good GPs are far more common than good psychiatrists.
I really don't care what you and your friends opinions are of me. All I know is I have some valuable knowledge to share and for as long as I believe it can help others then I shall continue to spread that message.
I really don't care what you and your friends opinions are of me. All I know is I have some valuable knowledge to share and for as long as I believe it can help others then I shall continue to spread that message.
Oct 14th 2013, 10:49 am
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Re: Depression / anxiety
Mental unwellness is mostly linked to experience or perception traumas, stress and even by high intellect and creativity. Examples of the latter two include: Ludwig van Beethoven, Vincent Van Gogh and Isaac Newton. Imagine if their treatments included the chemically lobotomisations such as those applied to modern day sufferers. Dumbing them down would have rendered these people incapable of their greatest works.
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Absolute twaddle, every aspect of your pronouncement.
Why do you think the brain isn't subject to physical disorders which manifest themseves as mental illness?
Depression does not generate inspired creativity. Bipolar sufferers are known for periods of huge energy and possibly creativity, but they have a different disorder from depression.
Anti-depressants which work properly free the patient of the impediment of dead-end thinking and restore a feeling of well-being and openness to ideas.
