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Geelong Gent Mar 6th 2009 10:33 pm

Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 
http://www.theage.com.au/world/calif...0307-8rrv.html

Discuss?

kporte Mar 6th 2009 11:29 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by Geelong Gent (Post 7353994)

I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances

Dorothy Mar 6th 2009 11:29 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by Geelong Gent (Post 7353994)

While I don't necessarily agree with the death penalty the accused was found guilty of a crime that carries that sentence. What do you think?

Dorothy Mar 6th 2009 11:29 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7354140)
I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances

Never? What about if it had been your son or brother who was one of the 5 killed?

kporte Mar 6th 2009 11:30 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7354145)
Never? What about if it had been your son or brother who was one of the 5 killed?

Never. I feel very strongly about it

BigH68 Mar 6th 2009 11:41 pm

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I think they should be put in a house with all windows and doors locked and should be left to burn..............very very slowly

Dorothy Mar 6th 2009 11:49 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7354147)
Never. I feel very strongly about it

I think there are certain cases where there is absolutely no reason to believe the guilty parties can be rehabilitated so what purpose does incarceration serve? I do believe in a system of rehabilitation rather than punishment in most cases.

kporte Mar 6th 2009 11:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7354175)
I think there are certain cases where there is absolutely no reason to believe the guilty parties can be rehabilitated so what purpose does incarceration serve? I do believe in a system of rehabilitation rather than punishment in most cases.

Incarceration is the punishment. Killing them is just plain wrong

BigH68 Mar 6th 2009 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7354181)
Incarceration is the punishment. Killing them is just plain wrong

they took lives so they should have theres taken also

kporte Mar 6th 2009 11:56 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by BigH68 (Post 7354184)
they took lives so they should have theres taken also

so then society becomes the murderer, the same as them?

Dorothy Mar 6th 2009 11:59 pm

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by BigH68 (Post 7354184)
they took lives so they should have theres taken also

But in all circumstances? I went to high school with a guy who killed someone when he was 15. He was tried as an adult, went to adult prison for 15 years and came out a totally changed person. He's now a missionary and one of the nicest people I know. What about those who are wrongly convicted? How do we reconcile taking the life of someone who is later proven innocent?

kporte Mar 7th 2009 12:01 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7354199)
But in all circumstances? I went to high school with a guy who killed someone when he was 15. He was tried as an adult, went to adult prison for 15 years and came out a totally changed person. He's now a missionary and one of the nicest people I know. What about those who are wrongly convicted? How do we reconcile taking the life of someone who is later proven innocent?

That's my major issue. One wrongly executed is one too many and there have been thousands around the world later found innocent.

BigH68 Mar 7th 2009 12:04 am

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7354199)
But in all circumstances? I went to high school with a guy who killed someone when he was 15. He was tried as an adult, went to adult prison for 15 years and came out a totally changed person. He's now a missionary and one of the nicest people I know. What about those who are wrongly convicted? How do we reconcile taking the life of someone who is later proven innocent?

IMO if it is 100% that they have committed the offence then they should suffer the same way

BigH68 Mar 7th 2009 12:05 am

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7354201)
That's my major issue. One wrongly executed is one too many and there have been thousands around the world later found innocent.

and hundreds who get away with it
and commit again

Dougie Mar 7th 2009 12:11 am

Re: Death Penalty for Forest Fire Arsonist
 

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7354181)
Incarceration is the punishment. Killing them is just plain wrong

WHAT are you for real??

OK so they are too away from there loved ones but playstations/Wii's/jobs/TV's/free education to name a few of the 'perks' and all at a cost to the tax payer !!!
Why should we support financially those that have knowingly committed a crime?

When there IS 1000's of honest people that are homeless through no fault of there own! the money should be spent on them instead IMO


Its an 'Eye for an Eye' in my opinion.


Dougie :mad:


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