The Dark Knight
Jul 20th 2008, 9:50 am
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The Dark Knight
Went to see it at the weekend, seemed to be a bit disjointed but really enjoyed it 
excellent cast, Ledger was disturbingly brilliant. I just love Gary Oldman in anything he does and thankfully Katie Holmes didnt make a reappearence.. bonus 
what do others think?
excellent cast, Ledger was disturbingly brilliant. I just love Gary Oldman in anything he does and thankfully Katie Holmes didnt make a reappearence.. bonus what do others think?
Jul 20th 2008, 10:48 am
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Re: The Dark Knight
We went to see it on Wednesday and really enjoyed it! even the wife gave it the thumbs up and she is usually not a fan of this type of film. As you say Ledger stole the show with a very good performance. 
Jul 20th 2008, 11:07 am
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The latest series of Batman films are a blessing to anyone who followed the original comics, where the darkness of the villains came through with such clarity.
Ledger was simply extraordinary as the Joker. I know there have been a lot of conspiricy theories about his death and that the overdoes might not have been that accidental, that sources close to him said that he immersed himself into the role of the Joker so completely that he had struggled with sanity after filming ended. This was not helped by his next project, Gilliam's strange and the surreal Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, of which he completed about 10% before he died.
For the record TDK is not a "kids film", while Batman Begins was kind of dark it was still watchable for younger kids. Where as Dark Knight is very firmly not for the fient of heart. I don't know what moron decided to take a group of mentally handicapped adults to the first showing of the film last Wednesday, but their screams in the theatre only added to the tone of what was a very dark and disturbing, brilliantly acted, film.
Ledgers Joker was one of the most gripping portrails of Psychopathy with Aggressive Narcissism (as defined by Dr Robert Hayes PCL-R: Factor 1) that I have yet seen. Even better than Michael Rooker in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
Gripping.
Ledger was simply extraordinary as the Joker. I know there have been a lot of conspiricy theories about his death and that the overdoes might not have been that accidental, that sources close to him said that he immersed himself into the role of the Joker so completely that he had struggled with sanity after filming ended. This was not helped by his next project, Gilliam's strange and the surreal Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, of which he completed about 10% before he died.
For the record TDK is not a "kids film", while Batman Begins was kind of dark it was still watchable for younger kids. Where as Dark Knight is very firmly not for the fient of heart. I don't know what moron decided to take a group of mentally handicapped adults to the first showing of the film last Wednesday, but their screams in the theatre only added to the tone of what was a very dark and disturbing, brilliantly acted, film.
Ledgers Joker was one of the most gripping portrails of Psychopathy with Aggressive Narcissism (as defined by Dr Robert Hayes PCL-R: Factor 1) that I have yet seen. Even better than Michael Rooker in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
Gripping.
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Jul 20th 2008, 2:42 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
The latest series of Batman films are a blessing to anyone who followed the original comics, where the darkness of the villains came through with such clarity.
Ledger was simply extraordinary as the Joker. I know there have been a lot of conspiricy theories about his death and that the overdoes might not have been that accidental, that sources close to him said that he immersed himself into the role of the Joker so completely that he had struggled with sanity after filming ended. This was not helped by his next project, Gilliam's strange and the surreal Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, of which he completed about 10% before he died.
For the record TDK is not a "kids film", while Batman Begins was kind of dark it was still watchable for younger kids. Where as Dark Knight is very firmly not for the fient of heart. I don't know what moron decided to take a group of mentally handicapped adults to the first showing of the film last Wednesday, but their screams in the theatre only added to the tone of what was a very dark and disturbing, brilliantly acted, film.
Ledgers Joker was one of the most gripping portrails of Psychopathy with Aggressive Narcissism (as defined by Dr Robert Hayes PCL-R: Factor 1) that I have yet seen. Even better than Michael Rooker in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
Gripping.
Ledger was simply extraordinary as the Joker. I know there have been a lot of conspiricy theories about his death and that the overdoes might not have been that accidental, that sources close to him said that he immersed himself into the role of the Joker so completely that he had struggled with sanity after filming ended. This was not helped by his next project, Gilliam's strange and the surreal Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, of which he completed about 10% before he died.
For the record TDK is not a "kids film", while Batman Begins was kind of dark it was still watchable for younger kids. Where as Dark Knight is very firmly not for the fient of heart. I don't know what moron decided to take a group of mentally handicapped adults to the first showing of the film last Wednesday, but their screams in the theatre only added to the tone of what was a very dark and disturbing, brilliantly acted, film.
Ledgers Joker was one of the most gripping portrails of Psychopathy with Aggressive Narcissism (as defined by Dr Robert Hayes PCL-R: Factor 1) that I have yet seen. Even better than Michael Rooker in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
Gripping.
totally agree not one for kids.btw my first word was Batman mutch to disgust of my parents
hes always been my hero from the tv series to Michael Keaton who I thought was brill. Lost interest with kilmer, clooney but thank god for Christian Bale
Jul 20th 2008, 2:53 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
We saw this at the drive-in last Thursday - I thought it was brilliant!!! I agree that Heath Ledger stole the show but I loved Gary Oldman as well. It was very dark but I didn't scream!!!
Jul 20th 2008, 4:37 pm
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In my book Gary Oldman's finest role ever was as the drug crazed Lt Stansfield in Luc Besson's classic Léon, closely followed by his role as the hysterical Zorg in the other Besson great The Fifth Element.
Yes, I am biased as I'm a huge fan of Luc Besson. For those that have not seen his latest work Taken, with Liam Neeson, I can highly recommend it. It will be out in September.
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Yes, I am biased as I'm a huge fan of Luc Besson. For those that have not seen his latest work Taken, with Liam Neeson, I can highly recommend it. It will be out in September.
Al
Jul 20th 2008, 4:43 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
Wow Barry Norman couldnt have said it better totally agree not one for kids.
btw my first word was Batman mutch to disgust of my parents hes always been my hero from the tv series to Michael Keaton who I thought was brill. Lost interest with kilmer, clooney but thank god for Christian Bale
totally agree not one for kids.btw my first word was Batman mutch to disgust of my parents
hes always been my hero from the tv series to Michael Keaton who I thought was brill. Lost interest with kilmer, clooney but thank god for Christian Bale
Jul 20th 2008, 5:11 pm
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There was no swearing, nudity or sex in the film (that I remember) but it was very dark generally. There were some creative graphic makeup/cgi effects for Two-Face which might be unsettling. Moreover it's just got "adult themes" (hate that phrase but quite apt in this instance)... cold-blooded mindless sadistic murder, a vision of insanity which may not go down so well for the younger audience.
Does that help ?
Jul 20th 2008, 5:25 pm
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I would say that's borderline but then my kids are used to watching slightly older films, however we know families who wouldn't show Transformers to an 8 year old, so it's all pretty subjective.
There was no swearing, nudity or sex in the film (that I remember) but it was very dark generally. There were some creative graphic makeup/cgi effects for Two-Face which might be unsettling. Moreover it's just got "adult themes" (hate that phrase but quite apt in this instance)... cold-blooded mindless sadistic murder, a vision of insanity which may not go down so well for the younger audience.
Does that help ?
There was no swearing, nudity or sex in the film (that I remember) but it was very dark generally. There were some creative graphic makeup/cgi effects for Two-Face which might be unsettling. Moreover it's just got "adult themes" (hate that phrase but quite apt in this instance)... cold-blooded mindless sadistic murder, a vision of insanity which may not go down so well for the younger audience.
Does that help ?
Jul 20th 2008, 6:40 pm
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Jul 20th 2008, 10:17 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
I would say that's borderline but then my kids are used to watching slightly older films, however we know families who wouldn't show Transformers to an 8 year old, so it's all pretty subjective.
There was no swearing, nudity or sex in the film (that I remember) but it was very dark generally. There were some creative graphic makeup/cgi effects for Two-Face which might be unsettling. Moreover it's just got "adult themes" (hate that phrase but quite apt in this instance)... cold-blooded mindless sadistic murder, a vision of insanity which may not go down so well for the younger audience
Does that help ?
There was no swearing, nudity or sex in the film (that I remember) but it was very dark generally. There were some creative graphic makeup/cgi effects for Two-Face which might be unsettling. Moreover it's just got "adult themes" (hate that phrase but quite apt in this instance)... cold-blooded mindless sadistic murder, a vision of insanity which may not go down so well for the younger audience
Does that help ?
Jul 20th 2008, 10:22 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
Wow Barry Norman couldnt have said it better totally agree not one for kids.
btw my first word was Batman mutch to disgust of my parents hes always been my hero from the tv series to Michael Keaton who I thought was brill. Lost interest with kilmer, clooney but thank god for Christian Bale
totally agree not one for kids.btw my first word was Batman mutch to disgust of my parents
hes always been my hero from the tv series to Michael Keaton who I thought was brill. Lost interest with kilmer, clooney but thank god for Christian Bale
Jul 20th 2008, 10:50 pm
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Re: The Dark Knight
I agree. The Keaton/Burton partnership in the first two was vastly better than the 3rd and 4th installments, although the performances of Jim Carrey (Riddler) and Tommy Lee Jones (Harvey Dent/Two Face), of which I felt was excellent portrayal of insane criminals, was alot better than Val Kilmer's Batman. In addition, the storyline of the 4th was totally rediculous.
Jul 20th 2008, 10:54 pm
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In my book Gary Oldman's finest role ever was as the drug crazed Lt Stansfield in Luc Besson's classic Léon, closely followed by his role as the hysterical Zorg in the other Besson great The Fifth Element.
Yes, I am biased as I'm a huge fan of Luc Besson. For those that have not seen his latest work Taken, with Liam Neeson, I can highly recommend it. It will be out in September.
Al
Yes, I am biased as I'm a huge fan of Luc Besson. For those that have not seen his latest work Taken, with Liam Neeson, I can highly recommend it. It will be out in September.
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will look out for Taken.
Jul 20th 2008, 11:13 pm
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Not "dark" in remotely same league as Heath Ledger's Joker IMHO though.
I agree. The Keaton/Burton partnership in the first two was vastly better than the 3rd and 4th installments, although the performances of Jim Carrey (Riddler) and Tommy Lee Jones (Harvey Dent/Two Face), of which I felt was excellent portrayal of insane criminals, was alot better than Val Kilmer's Batman. In addition, the storyline of the 4th was totally rediculous.
OK... I give up, it was shat
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