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Cruising?
Scouse and I have travelled a fair bit but have never been on a cruise. I know that the only way we'll know if this type of holiday is for us is to just do it, but I was wondering if anyone who's been on one (or more!) cruises would mind sharing their experiences?
I'm probably going to sound like a grumpy old woman here (probably because I am one), but we're not really into the 'make new friends' lark - we have enough friends already and prefer our own company when on holiday. So having to sit with a big group of people every night doesn't appeal much - do many ships have 'tables for two'? Any recommendations on particular cruise lines and travel agents? Would prefer to avoid a million rug rats running around, I like kids but only when they're asleep ;) Party ships R not us - probably something a bit more sedate with guest lecturers etc, although a bit of evening entertainment wouldn't go astray either. I wouldn't get Scouse in formal wear, is this a requirement on some ships? If we do decide to have a go, it'll probably be from the UK. I like the look of the Queens - Queen Mary seems more expensive than the other two, not sure why? Have also thought about a river cruise in Europe - any thoughts on those? Finally, for those who've booked Princess or Queens Grill accommodation, were you happy with paying a bit more for this, i.e. did you think it was worth it? Thanks for any thoughts, reviews etc :) |
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11208458)
Scouse and I have travelled a fair bit but have never been on a cruise. I know that the only way we'll know if this type of holiday is for us is to just do it, but I was wondering if anyone who's been on one (or more!) cruises would mind sharing their experiences?
I'm probably going to sound like a grumpy old woman here (probably because I am one), but we're not really into the 'make new friends' lark - we have enough friends already and prefer our own company when on holiday. So having to sit with a big group of people every night doesn't appeal much - do many ships have 'tables for two'? Any recommendations on particular cruise lines and travel agents? Would prefer to avoid a million rug rats running around, I like kids but only when they're asleep ;) Party ships R not us - probably something a bit more sedate with guest lecturers etc, although a bit of evening entertainment wouldn't go astray either. I wouldn't get Scouse in formal wear, is this a requirement on some ships? If we do decide to have a go, it'll probably be from the UK. I like the look of the Queens - Queen Mary seems more expensive than the other two, not sure why? Have also thought about a river cruise in Europe - any thoughts on those? Finally, for those who've booked Princess or Queens Grill accommodation, were you happy with paying a bit more for this, i.e. did you think it was worth it? Thanks for any thoughts, reviews etc :) Unless you sit in the cabin a lot it would be impossible to escape them. My worst nightmare would be a aussie cruise, they apparently drink more than anyone else on ships and being locked up with 3000 pissed up loud bogans would have me jumping over the side:lol: Maybe the QE ships are more refined. |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 11208910)
I think crammed in one ship with 3000 other people means you would have to like mixing??
Unless you sit in the cabin a lot it would be impossible to escape them. My worst nightmare would be a aussie cruise, they apparently drink more than anyone else on ships and being locked up with 3000 pissed up loud bogans would have me jumping over the side:lol: |
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I've never been on a ship where you can't escape the Hi di Hi club. There's always somewhere you can find tranquility. Most main dining rooms have tables for two, though sometimes they are that close together you may as well be sitting with someone. Formal nights, if there are any, are a pain in the ar$e, though you don't have to dress up and eat in the dining room, there are other dining options. Most ships have speciality restaurants where, for a small charge, you can escape the crowds and have a top class meal. Avoid the cheap and cheerful cruises if you don't like crowds and rowdiness.
As with most things, the more you pay.............. |
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We just did our first cruise out of Sydney a few weeks ago. Holland America - older demographic, very few kids and a mix of mostly Australians and US/Canadians. No bogans, no drunks; everyone very civilised.
While we enjoyed it on the whole, there were quite a few days where there was literally nothing to do except sleep, read and eat. You don't have to eat with other people, you can get tables for two in the dining room but they are few and highly sought after. Alternatively, you can eat in the casual restaurant wherever you can find a seat. They did have Trivia quizzes, cooking demos, computer courses, dance lessons and the like going on but even if you went to all of them, every day, it still wasn't enough to occupy us. We spent a lot of time reading on our balcony or walking the decks. We're in no hurry to do another cruise. We prefer a faster pace. Maybe when we're 80... |
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11208458)
Any recommendations on particular cruise lines and travel agents? Would prefer to avoid a million rug rats running around, I like kids but only when they're asleep ;) Party ships R not us - probably something a bit more sedate with guest lecturers etc, although a bit of evening entertainment wouldn't go astray either. I wouldn't get Scouse in formal wear, is this a requirement on some ships?
Thanks for any thoughts, reviews etc :) That kind of means 'cold' water cruises - like Norway, New Zealand, Antarctica, etc. Personally I've always thought at eventually I'd go on one of the Antarctica cruises (just because its the only way to get there), but they aren't cheap. Maybe cruising the inlets and sights of New Zealand (easy to get to)? Or even learn to sail and then go on a greek island sailing holiday - that would keep the kids at bay, and its probably quite cheap now ! |
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I agree with the comments of the others, and havent been on a cruise as I know it wouldnt be what I like. I suggest you ask yourself just what it is that you want to get out of a cruise. It certainly isnt the best way to see places as you have such little time in each place. I know people who do like cruises but only for the fact of not having to go out and find places to eat, and they dont go ashore either, they just stay on board and read or do nothing.
I used to live in Bermuda where a large number of cruises go to each year. Watching the hoards rushing off the ship to rush around the island in a taxi or buying T shirts or the usual overpriced duty free stuff, was enough to put me off for ever. I also have met people who have been on the European river cruises, which they say are very relaxing, but if you have bad luck with the weather, you will find yourself cramped up all day inside the boat with nothing to do. One thing you apparently need to beware of are the cruises that have long tables in the dining area, as you will be forced to share whether you like it or not. |
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11208458)
Scouse and I have travelled a fair bit but have never been on a cruise. I know that the only way we'll know if this type of holiday is for us is to just do it, but I was wondering if anyone who's been on one (or more!) cruises would mind sharing their experiences?
I'm probably going to sound like a grumpy old woman here (probably because I am one), but we're not really into the 'make new friends' lark - we have enough friends already and prefer our own company when on holiday. So having to sit with a big group of people every night doesn't appeal much - do many ships have 'tables for two'? Any recommendations on particular cruise lines and travel agents? Would prefer to avoid a million rug rats running around, I like kids but only when they're asleep ;) Party ships R not us - probably something a bit more sedate with guest lecturers etc, although a bit of evening entertainment wouldn't go astray either. I wouldn't get Scouse in formal wear, is this a requirement on some ships? If we do decide to have a go, it'll probably be from the UK. I like the look of the Queens - Queen Mary seems more expensive than the other two, not sure why? Have also thought about a river cruise in Europe - any thoughts on those? Finally, for those who've booked Princess or Queens Grill accommodation, were you happy with paying a bit more for this, i.e. did you think it was worth it? Thanks for any thoughts, reviews etc :) Personally i couldn't think of anything worse - imagine being stuck on a boat with 2000 American pensioners for 2 weeks You only get to visit places for half a day: Venice for 10 hrs - that would be super fun |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 11208910)
I think crammed in one ship with 3000 other people means you would have to like mixing??
Unless you sit in the cabin a lot it would be impossible to escape them. My worst nightmare would be a aussie cruise, they apparently drink more than anyone else on ships and being locked up with 3000 pissed up loud bogans would have me jumping over the side:lol: Maybe the QE ships are more refined. |
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser
(Post 11209024)
I've never been on a ship where you can't escape the Hi di Hi club. There's always somewhere you can find tranquility. Most main dining rooms have tables for two, though sometimes they are that close together you may as well be sitting with someone. Formal nights, if there are any, are a pain in the ar$e, though you don't have to dress up and eat in the dining room, there are other dining options. Most ships have speciality restaurants where, for a small charge, you can escape the crowds and have a top class meal. Avoid the cheap and cheerful cruises if you don't like crowds and rowdiness.
As with most things, the more you pay.............. |
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Originally Posted by NickyC
(Post 11209043)
We just did our first cruise out of Sydney a few weeks ago. Holland America - older demographic, very few kids and a mix of mostly Australians and US/Canadians. No bogans, no drunks; everyone very civilised.
While we enjoyed it on the whole, there were quite a few days where there was literally nothing to do except sleep, read and eat. You don't have to eat with other people, you can get tables for two in the dining room but they are few and highly sought after. Alternatively, you can eat in the casual restaurant wherever you can find a seat. They did have Trivia quizzes, cooking demos, computer courses, dance lessons and the like going on but even if you went to all of them, every day, it still wasn't enough to occupy us. We spent a lot of time reading on our balcony or walking the decks. We're in no hurry to do another cruise. We prefer a faster pace. Maybe when we're 80... |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11209046)
Hmm, well assuming you want to avoid the Sagalouts as well, how about cruising picturesque areas where the kids are unlikely to be much in evidence. And if you want to avoid the "party ships R us" lot, how about not the hot, caribbean type cruises?
That kind of means 'cold' water cruises - like Norway, New Zealand, Antarctica, etc. Personally I've always thought at eventually I'd go on one of the Antarctica cruises (just because its the only way to get there), but they aren't cheap. Maybe cruising the inlets and sights of New Zealand (easy to get to)? Or even learn to sail and then go on a greek island sailing holiday - that would keep the kids at bay, and its probably quite cheap now ! |
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Originally Posted by dfjordan
(Post 11209090)
I agree with the comments of the others, and havent been on a cruise as I know it wouldnt be what I like. I suggest you ask yourself just what it is that you want to get out of a cruise. It certainly isnt the best way to see places as you have such little time in each place. I know people who do like cruises but only for the fact of not having to go out and find places to eat, and they dont go ashore either, they just stay on board and read or do nothing.
I used to live in Bermuda where a large number of cruises go to each year. Watching the hoards rushing off the ship to rush around the island in a taxi or buying T shirts or the usual overpriced duty free stuff, was enough to put me off for ever. I also have met people who have been on the European river cruises, which they say are very relaxing, but if you have bad luck with the weather, you will find yourself cramped up all day inside the boat with nothing to do. One thing you apparently need to beware of are the cruises that have long tables in the dining area, as you will be forced to share whether you like it or not. |
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 11209112)
If you're not into making friends, why go on a cruise with thousands of other people?
Personally i couldn't think of anything worse - imagine being stuck on a boat with 2000 American pensioners for 2 weeks You only get to visit places for half a day: Venice for 10 hrs - that would be super fun Reading yours and other people's comments is really useful, gets me thinking about things I hadn't really considered before. |
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My sister took a Royal Caribbean cruise a year ago...Sydney, Melbourne then the ship headed for NZ where it had many ports of call. She thoroughly enjoyed it. We intend to take the same cruise before too long.
I have been on quite a few cruises...mostly large ships. I like the newer, larger ships because there is more to do...theatres, ice rinks, speciality restaurants etc. The longer the cruise...the more likely it is to have more mature passengers. In the US Carnival are known as party ships. We like Princess and Royal Caribbean...I believe Celebrity is very good too. Even on a full ship there is plenty of opportunity to get away from the masses...and there is usually lots to do. Children are not a problem...they are usually kept busy and out of the way by the organizers of the Kids Club. On all the ships I've been on we have been able to sit on a table for 2 in the dining room. We have had some excellent cruise deals. You can travel to different ports of call without having to pack and unpack...and you get to go back to your own room every night. Plenty of food and entertainment and it is for the most part included in the price. Many cruises are great value for money. For years I refused to take a cruise holiday because I thought I would be bored. My husband suggested we went on a large ship for a short holiday. We went on a 5 day cruise from New York to Bermuda. From then on I was hooked. |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 11209236)
My sister took a Royal Caribbean cruise a year ago...Sydney, Melbourne then the ship headed for NZ where it had many ports of call. She thoroughly enjoyed it.
We intend to take the same cruise before too long. I'll start stocking up |
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Originally Posted by BEVS
(Post 11209247)
:sneaky:
I'll start stocking up |
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I have cruised a lot and used to be a cruise agent.
From what you have posted, my initial recomendation would be Cystal Cruises. They are not cheap, but personally i think very good value. If you PM me with more details about yourselves i can probably be more accurate. What do you like doing on land? - seeing sights? relaxing on a beach? Your age? - VERY important Dining - Do you think having one or two nights pretty formal - black tie would be fun or a pain and are you into or would like to try gourmet food? What sort of itinary are you looking at - lots of different cities or more days at sea? Are there any specific activities you are interested in such as learning to dive or do watersports? Any particular part of the world? |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 11209248)
:lol:
Christchurch is 4/5 hours drive each way . North Island would be a no-no. |
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An ex of mine always fancied a cruise but he had the same reservations as people here about being stuck with a crowd of people he didn't get on with. He was a really sociable guy but also liked to be able to retreat and be alone at times. His solution was to book one leg of a cruise - one of the ships doing a trip around the south Pacific, and he just booked Hobart to somewhere like Nauru, then flew back from there.
He said it was great, but wouldn't do it again, too restrictive and no escape! He spent much of his time reading in little spots where he could appreciate the sea view and the beauty of the ocean, and he said the entertainment value of fellow passengers was great - just people watching, and listening to their conversations kept him entertained for hours. Best story was a group of Americans, screaming loudly inside the casino at the front of the ship when they saw some dolphins leaping up from the sea ahead. Something along the lines of 'aw gee look at those huge sharks, I hope we are safe in here' :rofl::rofl::rofl: |
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Originally Posted by BEVS
(Post 11209247)
:sneaky:
I'll start stocking up |
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Tiddler (19) went on a cruise with a friend and her family in Feb. Had a blast and it was just a regular P&O, out from Brisbane, round the Pacific Islands and back in a week cruise. Chatted to who she wanted, avoided small children like the plague and was pleasantly surprised that the vast majority of children stayed in the kids club and away from 'normal' people all week. She's not a clubber or a joiner inner iykwim. She wants to go on another one. Must be ok, she's almost as fussy as me! :lol:
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My inlaws are on the QM2 right now doing the Hong Kong to Singapore leg...Will give you an expedited trip report when they get back. Like Amazulu said, what surprised me was the short times in port...like 10 hours in Ho Chi Minh...most of it spent driving from the port to the city and back!
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i thought this was a thread about George Michael and cottages :eek:
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11209217)
Thanks for the reply Garry, I'm liking the sound of a NZ cruise. I hope you get to take that Antarctica cruise.
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Get a decent cabin, at least a mini suite, the tiny staterooms as they call them are probably smaller than a prison cell and seven days is about the max that you can stand them. Do not ask for special meals like vegetarian, they'll hate you and you'll find that things are very different once on the boat to what you were promised. We have always been let down by Princess, Cunard and Royal Caribbean. Someone suggested Crystal Cruises, we haven't been on that one but others have spoken very highly of them as have others about Regent Seven Seas, worth paying a bit extra. Don't go for those cruises offering huge last minute discounts, means they haven't sold much and to compensate they'll cut back on entertainment, lectures and food. Beware of shore excursions, the cruise line will add a huge mark-up, you can get them much cheaper going direct, in some countries, not New Zealand or Tasmania, there'll be people waiting in ports offering real good deals. In Canada once we teamed up with another couple and hired a cab for three hours, it was great, saw everything that we wanted at about the same cost for a booked tour and we got much better service along with personal attention. We like to book tours after lunch so that we can have a leisurely two hour breakfast, we hate it when they say be on the wharf at 7:45 am, that often means a hurried 6:00 am breakfast, don't want to do that on holiday. Beware of tenders, that's when the boat is too big for the port and they have to use the lifeboats to get ashore, by the time you are there you'll be smelling of diesel fumes from the engines and you'll be herded like cattle, that's not true, there's laws against treating cattle like that. In general though you will enjoy the cruise and more than likely will go for others later but by then your experience will help to do it better.
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The other half has always wanted to cruise, I was not so keen
2 years ago we went on a mini cruise, 3 days from Fremantle to Geograph Bay This was with P&O, it was ok, pleasant, nothing to write home about Last year we cruised with The Royal Caribbean, on one of the smaller liners, Legend Of The Sea, from Singapore, to Phuket, Kuala Lumpa, back to Singapore This was amazing, lots to do, fantastic food, and great crew The only downer......as it was in Asian waters, 99% of the passengers were asians, not that being asian bothered me, it was the language barrier that drove me nuts as a majority of the announcements were in a language I couldn't understand The only other downer, was that we booked to go on the excursions and it wasnt until we met up with another couple, whom advised us not to book anymore and just jump on the ferry taxis when the boat dropped anchor We followed there advice, and when we docked just outside Phuket, those that had paid for the excursion were trekked off the ship, in military style, we just jumped on the next boat taxi and spent a leisurely day in Phuket Would we do it again?? YES....next time I want to go on the Oasis of the sea!! |
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 11208458)
If we do decide to have a go, it'll probably be from the UK. I like the look of the Queens - Queen Mary seems more expensive than the other two, not sure why? Have also thought about a river cruise in Europe - any thoughts on those?
Finally, for those who've booked Princess or Queens Grill accommodation, were you happy with paying a bit more for this, i.e. did you think it was worth it? Thanks for any thoughts, reviews etc :) Free seating on other ships means just that - you can eat wherever and whenever you like. The Cunard version is that you get allocated a table for the voyage, the only "free" bit is that you can eat whenever you choose. In the "Britannia" restaurants you are allocated a table and a sitting time. We chose a Princess table for two and very pleasant it was, too. We are off on a double cruise with Oceania soon, just 700 passengers - the Queen Victoria was the largest ship we've used and even at 2000 its far to many for us. PM me if you need more info. |
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Originally Posted by sj oldfield
(Post 11209680)
The other half has always wanted to cruise, I was not so keen
2 years ago we went on a mini cruise, 3 days from Fremantle to Geograph Bay This was with P&O, it was ok, pleasant, nothing to write home about Last year we cruised with The Royal Caribbean, on one of the smaller liners, Legend Of The Sea, from Singapore, to Phuket, Kuala Lumpa, back to Singapore This was amazing, lots to do, fantastic food, and great crew The only downer......as it was in Asian waters, 99% of the passengers were asians, not that being asian bothered me, it was the language barrier that drove me nuts as a majority of the announcements were in a language I couldn't understand The only other downer, was that we booked to go on the excursions and it wasnt until we met up with another couple, whom advised us not to book anymore and just jump on the ferry taxis when the boat dropped anchor We followed there advice, and when we docked just outside Phuket, those that had paid for the excursion were trekked off the ship, in military style, we just jumped on the next boat taxi and spent a leisurely day in Phuket Would we do it again?? YES....next time I want to go on the Oasis of the sea!! Like a couple of people have said...we usually don't book tours but jump in a taxi/mini bus at the port. They usually take you on exactly the same route but are a fraction if the price. For first time cruisers...definitely book at least a balcony cabin. That way if you wish to be alone but have fabulous views you can sit on your balcony. I wish the ship would stay in port for several days at some destinations. They don't because of the high port fees. We are looking to travel on the QM2 from Southampton to Singapore next year. Just not sure about spending so much time on the ship. :unsure: |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 11209710)
Royal Caribbean's Oasis and Allure of the Seas are fabulous ships.
Like a couple of people have said...we usually don't book tours but jump in a taxi/mini bus at the port. They usually take you on exactly the same route but are a fraction if the price. For first time cruisers...definitely book at least a balcony cabin. That way if you wish to be alone but have fabulous views you can sit on your balcony. I wish the ship would stay in port for several days at some destinations. They don't because of the high port fees. We are looking to travel on the QM2 from Southampton to Singapore next year. Just not sure about spending so much time on the ship. :unsure: |
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