Originally Posted by Amazulu

England have been massively underwhelming on this tour and they totally deserve to be 3-0 down. They have got themselves into good positions and then blown them. They have made Australia look better than they actually are - especially given that Smith's captaincy hasn't been that flash

Some of England's players don't deserve their places:
Cook is now a passenger and is contributing nothing to the team
Ali has been a massive disappointment. Looks like he's a one trick pony and is a shadow of what Swann was
Broad has no penetration as a bowler and his batting is Keystone Cops hilarious

England should be better than this - 5-zip to Australia is on the cards

Originally Posted by DeadVim

Yep, it’s been painful to endure. Brief moments of hope (3 days of the first test, the occasional session, etc) followed by the cold hard truth of reality.

Toothless bowling, no decent spinner, Smith, all the off-field nonsense ... I would be embarrassed if England got away with a draw today due to pitch/weather to be honest.

Credit to Aus, they wrapped it up in ruthless fashion. Was painful to watch Anderson giving a going over but in a sporting context it’s foot on the throat stuff.

But there is hope, the newbies looked good. Maybe Stokes can prioritise his country instead of his ego and IPL millions next time ...

Originally Posted by Beoz

This is how its done in India

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cznvt6fWQAAmtf4.jpg

Originally Posted by Beoz

Yes the newbies do look good.

Even Root with all his youth and talent has come unstuck.

It was always going to be the team with the best bowlers.

I just hope we don't go to England thinking we can blast them out of the park with pace like we have done in the past.

Originally Posted by DeadVim

I think the home advantage thing will always generally rule unless you have an exceptional team. It’s like a different game being played around the world depending on who is hosting.

Interest in Ashes here waning fast, hope to get some bosh bosh thrills watching the Brisbane Heat tomorrow ... Lynn back, LBWatson still playing ...

England/Wales/SA just not good enough this time around, can’t be denied.

Cooky, Broad ... how dare anyone doubt your talents.

Originally Posted by DeadVim

I think the home advantage thing will always generally rule unless you have an exceptional team. It’s like a different game being played around the world depending on who is hosting.

Interest in Ashes here waning fast, hope to get some bosh bosh thrills watching the Brisbane Heat tomorrow ... Lynn back, LBWatson still playing ...

England/Wales/SA just not good enough this time around, can’t be denied.

Bye Cooky, Broad ... time to move on.

Originally Posted by Beoz

Just when you thought they were out the door ...........

Originally Posted by DeadVim

Yes, my original post was cruelly corrupted by mobile auto-complete, clearly they are still forces to be reckoned with.

Originally Posted by Ozziechris

I see Ashes series just going backwards and forward depending on where they are played. On neutral ground these 2 sides would be pretty much even and if played in England then we would probably win.

Originally Posted by Amazulu

Rubbish. I'm no fan of either side but England have under-performed massively - they know it and we know it. From what I've seen, Australia are a better team than England and at the moment, would win wherever they played

Neither team, of course, is better than South Africa

Originally Posted by Ozziechris

I see Ashes series just going backwards and forward depending on where they are played. On neutral ground these 2 sides would be pretty much even and if played in England then we would probably win.

Originally Posted by Ozziechris

Your opinion, that's fine.

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow

One memorable moment, in a pretty boring match... The Barmy Army in full voice singing "Jerusalem", with Joe Root (fielding close to the pitch) mouthing the words along with them.