Coronavirus - how's everyone doing?
#691
Re: Coronavirus - how's everyone doing?
Yes, the Chinese made big mistakes and the people who did paid for that, but at least once the central government found out, the reaction was quick and decisive. they didn't bumble around like other countries have done. It may have started there, but the Spanish Flu was started by Americans last century, and I don't recall anyone griping about that or the pandemic that swept through Australia after colonisation. The only reason there is such an outcry over this one is that certain politicians in the US and of course, Australia, decided they could get good political milage through the media, to blame somebody because they were so slow, like 2 months, in getting organised after initially saying what a good job was done, and also the use of social media by the far-right to push their propaganda that has the country in an uproar.
Yes, I would have been happy to be tested because it would have given me peace of mind, and it's also not as difficult as people make out.
In China, it definitely is mandatory for returning citizens from abroad to be tested and also people to be quarantined and tested when returning to either their home province OR city/town.....you don't leave until you have had at least 2 negative tests within that 14 days. I was lucky they reduced ine in Zhongxiang as I had a green health certificate from the Yichang authorities and you can't use any public transport, bus, train, taxi, DIDI or aircraft, now unless you either show either a green heacth code by scanning the QR code with your phoen or have a current paper certificate,
As to the numbers, i rely on the old saying of lies, damn lies and statistics, especially with the low rate of testing done here and the lax restrictions that slowly were put in place, which most have been ignored anyway.
I'm just wondering how many cases have fallen through the cracks (again I will cite the guy who was cleared in NSW and flew back to Brisbane and was positive) and so no wonder "the curve" is being flattened. There is also no daily checking of detainees to ensure there health s they only rely on what people tell them and definitely no fresh air, only recycled air-conditioning that takes air from all over the buildiing and sends back to every room, surprisingly air-con does tend to spread airborne pathegins around the system.
Yes, I would have been happy to be tested because it would have given me peace of mind, and it's also not as difficult as people make out.
In China, it definitely is mandatory for returning citizens from abroad to be tested and also people to be quarantined and tested when returning to either their home province OR city/town.....you don't leave until you have had at least 2 negative tests within that 14 days. I was lucky they reduced ine in Zhongxiang as I had a green health certificate from the Yichang authorities and you can't use any public transport, bus, train, taxi, DIDI or aircraft, now unless you either show either a green heacth code by scanning the QR code with your phoen or have a current paper certificate,
As to the numbers, i rely on the old saying of lies, damn lies and statistics, especially with the low rate of testing done here and the lax restrictions that slowly were put in place, which most have been ignored anyway.
I'm just wondering how many cases have fallen through the cracks (again I will cite the guy who was cleared in NSW and flew back to Brisbane and was positive) and so no wonder "the curve" is being flattened. There is also no daily checking of detainees to ensure there health s they only rely on what people tell them and definitely no fresh air, only recycled air-conditioning that takes air from all over the buildiing and sends back to every room, surprisingly air-con does tend to spread airborne pathegins around the system.
We live in a country that is in the top 5 in the world when it comes to handling this pandemic - and we've done it without crashing our economy like New Zealand has. We've done a much better job than China has - much, much better
As others have said, although Spanish flu first appeared at a US army base, it most probably started in Asia, namely China. That was a time before mass telecommunications and the digital age. Information flowed very differently back then
#692
Re: Coronavirus - how's everyone doing?
The downside - Looks like normal is returning (but normal wasn’t working, so good luck with the next crisis that requires printing of fake money to solve ...)
The upside - The winter cricket season might start as planned
I’m on the Pandemic Plan so lost a shedload of weight. Family frisbee time plus no commute means more quality exercise time.
AND I’ve wangled getting a force feedback wheel with pedals and gearshift as essential XBox lockdown equipment.
Halcyon Days, how can I fund the Chinese labs in anticipation for the next wave?
The upside - The winter cricket season might start as planned
I’m on the Pandemic Plan so lost a shedload of weight. Family frisbee time plus no commute means more quality exercise time.
AND I’ve wangled getting a force feedback wheel with pedals and gearshift as essential XBox lockdown equipment.
Halcyon Days, how can I fund the Chinese labs in anticipation for the next wave?
#694
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So New Zealand now has more deaths (pro rata) than Australia
That economy ending stage 4 lock down worked well for them didn't it!
That economy ending stage 4 lock down worked well for them didn't it!
#696
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The trouble with heaping all this blame on China is the all those morons on the beaches and having parties etc, those people will be taking that 'anger' out on everyday normal Chinese people who had nothing to do with the virus.
#697
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QLD 3, NSW 2, Vic 3, 2 unknown state. Total 10.
Weekend testing so there is a fair chance it's not an accurate picture but NSW did do over 4000 tests yesterday which is a fair number.
Weekend testing so there is a fair chance it's not an accurate picture but NSW did do over 4000 tests yesterday which is a fair number.
#698
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Where did you get your numbers? I've seen QLD 3, NSW 2, VIC 1 and TAS 4. Still total of 10 but discrepancy is VIC number.
#699
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I agree, they are not to blame for what the asshole government has done in China - and anyone targeting them is an idiot. Saying that, the Australian Chinese community is no stranger to pathetic, unjustified attacks - look at the harassment that Mack Horton and his family have had to suffer at the hands of the local Melbourne Chinese community over the last few years
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I agree, they are not to blame for what the asshole government has done in China - and anyone targeting them is an idiot. Saying that, the Australian Chinese community is no stranger to pathetic, unjustified attacks - look at the harassment that Mack Horton and his family have had to suffer at the hands of the local Melbourne Chinese community over the last few years
#701
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Only 10 new cases across Australia as second wave becomes focus
By Nicole Precel
Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt has said there has been an increase of 10 cases in the last 24 hours in Australia.The NSW and Queensland premiers have already held press conferences this morning announcing two and three new cases in their respective states.
Mr Hunt said three of the other five cases were in Victoria.
#702
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If you are looking for officially sanctioned nasty racism, I give you the Chinese Communist Party. The way Uighurs, Tibetans, Muslims, and anyone who isn't Han Chinese is treated in that country is horrifying. They put on a smile for foreigners but if you actually have to live there and be on the receiving end of the CCP it's a very different story.
How arrogant. No one can mess with China
He goes on to threaten Australia by stating China will boycott tourism, education and agriculture products from Australia.
China is also ramping up propaganda into the origins of the virus.
The arroganance, lying, and ownership of the Chinese government is a disgrace.
#703
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If you are looking for officially sanctioned nasty racism, I give you the Chinese Communist Party. The way Uighurs, Tibetans, Muslims, and anyone who isn't Han Chinese is treated in that country is horrifying. They put on a smile for foreigners but if you actually have to live there and be on the receiving end of the CCP it's a very different story.
#704
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Also saving face is not about the individual, it's about the collective group. It's about the family, the government, the culture.
#705
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This is interesting. Bakersfield has a similar population density to most Australian urban centres:
Saying that, I'm not promoting any conspiracy theory here and that there is some ulterior government motive
Saying that, I'm not promoting any conspiracy theory here and that there is some ulterior government motive
Last edited by Amazulu; Apr 27th 2020 at 5:36 am.