bcworld

I think it's the same old, same old Barbie MO...she's Labour, Victoria's Labor ergo there's some point to be made.

Pollyana

Woolies and Coles need to up their emphasis on online shopping and thus keep people away from the stores.
Its just daft canning it for the majority. As a non driver, now having to carry shopping home, I have to make 3 or 4 trips a week and interact with other people, rather than one home delivery a month left on my doorstep and no interaction at all.
The introduction of queueing is a worry - my arthritis does not allow me to stand still for more than 20 minutes and all seats have been removed from the shopping centre. I forsee me having to send whole days doing the 40 minute wak there and back so I can eventually end u there when there is no queue!

moneypenny20

I think, can't confirm because my expert doesn't know for sure either, that Online has been cut back because they can't fill anyone's orders so it all became too hard! Judging by the online ordering in the UK and US, finding a delivery slot is like looking for the proverbial needle. I tried to order an Easter Egg for my daughter from Waitrose the other day. They had the egg but I couldn't find a delivery slot - I gave up when I went into May! Woolies do do Priority Online and they have just increased the amount they can do every night - you might be able to get on that, I don't know what the criteria is. I don't have a clue on what Coles are doing. We have seats in shopping centres down here, they just have a One Person Only sign on them.

Beoz

I haven't played golf since Xmas 2018, so not a topic I am overly passionate about, but common sense needs to come into play in all situations. Golf is a perfect example where one can apply common sense. The beach is not an option, even though logic says that social distancing can be applied, where in fact it can't be in the other infrastructure and facilities surrounding the beach - quite simply - nice weather, the beach will draw the crowd it and the other facilities, and we don't want crowds.

I suppose you heard about the learner driver in Victoria that got stung with the $1600 fine which in turn forced the NSW police to issue a statement stating that Learning to Drive is all part of education and permitted. Again common sense prevailing. On top of that, with so many out of work a driving job can be the next occupation for man if they don't currently have a license.

This is all Daniel Andrews, he is the one around the National Cabinet being the bully boy, which is not a bad thing. You have to have someone at the extreme so the others can pull them into line.

scrubbedexpat098

this is an inconvenience to him, he seems to want to maintain his own lifestyle at everyone else's risk, and then call them selfish for not wanting to.

Croker

Right...

...nor are you passionate about consistency in your arguments, apparently!

“This is all Beoz, hanging around this thread to badmouth Daniel Andrews at any cost.”

Beoz

Exactly, why is New Zealand in total lockdown? Are you hoping to stamp it out completely in 4 weeks? Never going to happen. What happens then? Do you go into total lockdown for another 4 weeks? Then another? How do you kick start New Zealand after this with a total lockdown, especially when New Zealand's entire economy is reliant on globalisation? Wouldn't it be better for New Zealand with its low rate of cases and infection, play a longer game, making it easier for society to cope, reducing stress, mental illness, job losses, and have a little engine running along? It all seems a bit over cooked for me in NZ right now. NZ is not Italy, UK, US. Shouldn't it adopt an approach specific to New Zealand's own circumstances and adapt to what unfolds?

Beoz

Go on. Point out the inconsistencies. The only inconsistency is with a leader who says its fine to jog through the streets huffing an puffing droplets of potentially (yet unlikely) COVID19 contaminated saliva yet a stroll around a golf course where the 2 person rule applies is no go.

I haven't brushed up on the rules in Victoria. In NSW its acceptable to be on the move for educational purposes. Is it the same in Victoria and if so why should a learner driver be hit with a $1600 fine?

Are these the inconsistencies you are after?

Not at any cost. But when the guy acts like he does, threatening full lockdown any moment, when the situation at present is under control with the federal guidance, he is a big target.

Edit: I see what you are trying to deviate over. I said "I haven't played golf since Xmas 2018, so not a topic I am overly passionate about" ....... I should have said "I hadn't" ....... I am sure you could have figured that out.

Croker

Mate, you’re the one who apparently either last played golf two years ago, or no more than seven days ago. Why not address that inconsistency rather than ignoring it and hoping it goes away?

You’re not after a proper debate, you just want to keep beating up on whoever it is you don’t like. Jacinda Ardern, bizarrely, seems to have enraged you out of all proportion to the effect she could possibly have had on your life, given that you live in NSW.

Can’t say I’m that bothered about ploughing through another load of verbiage that fails to counter any of the points put to you, tbh. Maybe I should leave you alone to bark at the moon.

Croker

😂😂😂 Was this before or after the dog ate your homework?

GarryP

1.9% growth today

Pollyana

Have to be able to show you are registered disabled or elderly to get it online at present - I'm not, Ijust walk very slowly and can't stand for long.
Our shopping centre has removed all seting from the food court area and the free internet terminal area, as well as the odd seats that were scattered around. There is literally nowhere to sit. I saw an old lady in tears last week because she had done her shopping and just wante a sidown before she walked home. Totally stupid move to take every seat away.

Beoz

Are we discussing if golf is ok or not?

Yes, played last week and played at Xmas 2018. They are the last 2 outings. All good with that?

I'd prefer to be having a swim at the beach for exercise. Sadly and rightfully so, beaches are shut, in Sydney at least.

Beoz

Should these numbers continue, we may see negatives next week.

moneypenny20

Just a thought, not sure if it's possible or if you'd be prepared to do it but could you rent one of those wheelie seat shopping walker things from somewhere, Red Cross maybe? (trying to be helpful here but probably failing) just whilst this is all going on? The idea of struggling to walk or stand for any length of time before you even get into a shop and not wanting to get on public transport is scary.