kiwi_child

Bonk Gully? Think I been there in my younger years

Shakmaty

I asked a general question...2 actually that I believe to be related. I don't have an agenda, but I do have an interest and everything I've read has lead me to the conclusions that I hold. But I'm open minded and willing to listen to the ideas of others....however, until those ideas are shown you won't get me to change my opinions...

Ozzidoc

Also in West Norfolk, UK....probably elsewhere here as well, but that is the one that I am personally familiar with.

Shakmaty

Do you live near them? :scared:

Hels

Stoned, no....just a little delerious!!


and nope....I definatly meant 'Bong Gully'!!


Now quit posting to me so I can go to bed!!!

Shakmaty

Out of the swamps :scared:

kiwi_child

Fair Enough. I will post my sources as soon as I have located them. We are all entitled to our own opinons. I just want to research the info I have heard and present it. Once I have, you can still believe what you wish

Wendy

The English royal family have been doing it for centuries

sme

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than marry any of my cousins - they were not blessed with my side of the families good genes

DebraH

my friend married her first cousin - had to have extra pregnancy checks though, but her kids are fine

milliesmum

Ditto! Except for her last child which has an abnormal growth on the left side of her face which is not responding to treatment, its sort of like a strawberry mark with a large growth, its under her ear/jawline. She did tell me what it was called but I can't remember. I do remember her gp hinting that it 'may'be something to do with genes They are Syrian and their families were really pleased when they got together.

I don't comment on it to her its none of my business, she did ask me what i thought of it though.

Vash the Stampede

Don't know about the Vietnamese, but for the Lebanese and Turks the answere is simple: religion.

Just look at all the ghettos and enclaves in Britain. Doesn't take a genius to work out the prevailing factor there.

Vash the Stampede

My wife is a high school teacher, and works at a state school in Lozells. Previously, she worked at a state school in Walsall.

In both schools, she was struck by the number of Asian children (sub-continent, not oriental) with birth defects of various kinds. The most frequent were problems in the hands and feet - particularly the presence of additional digits. Apparently this is also common amongst the ultra-conservative "Old Order" Amish communities of Pennsylvania.

It is a classic sign of inbreeding.

Shakmaty

Religion is certainly one factor but maybe it isn't the only one? Surely if that was the case, other Arabic peoples would have equally low rates of intermarriage?

Vanessa

You can marry your 1st cousin in England.

a man cannot marry:

Mother (also step-mother, former step-mother, mother-in-law, former mother-in-law, adoptive mother or former adoptive mother)
Daughter (also step-daughter, former step-daughter, daughter-in-law, former daughter-in-law, adoptive daughter or former adoptive daughter)
Sister (also half-sister)
Father's mother (grandmother)
Mother's mother (grandmother)
Father's father's former wife (step-grandmother)
Mother's father's former wife (step-grandmother)
Son's daughter (granddaughter)
Daughter's daughter (granddaughter)
Wife's son's daughter (step-granddaughter)
Wife's daughter's daughter (step-granddaughter)
Son's son's wife (grandson's wife)
Daughter's son's wife (grandson's wife)
Father's sister (aunt)
Mother's sister (aunt)
Brother's daughter (niece)
Sister's daughter (niece)

A woman may not marry her:


Father (also step-father, former step-father, father-in-law, former father-in-law, adoptive father or former adoptive father)
Son (also step-son, former step-son, son-in-law, former son-in-law, adoptive son or former adoptive son)
Brother (also half-brother or step-brother)
Father's father (grandfather)
Mother's father (grandfather)
Mother's mother's former husband (step-grandfather)
Father's mother's former husband (step-grandfather)
Son's son (grandson)
Daughter's son (grandson)
Husband's daughter's son (step grandson)
Husband's son's son (step grandson)
Son's daughter's husband (granddaughter's husband)
Daughter's daughter's husband (granddaughter's husband)
Father's brother (uncle)
Mother's brother (uncle)
Brother's son (nephew)
Sister's son (nephew)

Exceptions for Certain Step-Relatives and Relatives-in-Law
In England, Scotland and Wales (not Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey) the Marriage Act, 1986, allows for certain step-relatives and relatives-in-law to marry.

Step-Relatives
Step-relatives may marry provided they are at least 21 years of age. The younger of the couple must at no time before the age of 18 have lived in the same household as the older person. Neither must they have been treated as a child of the older person's family.

Relatives-in-Law
Although a man may marry his sister-in-law and a woman may marry her brother-in-law, other relatives-in-law may marry provided they are at least 21 years of age and the family members involved in creating the in-law relationship are both dead. For example, if a man wishes to marry his daughter-in-law, both his son and his son's mother must be dead. In England and Wales, marriages under this Act are not permitted with the calling of banns but can take place in a church on the authority of a superintendent registrar's certificate without licence.


You can now marry your mother-in-law, even when former partners are alive. (a case went before the European Court of Human Rights)