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tevta May 26th 2013 7:18 pm
Changes in citizenship act
 
A refugee from Afghanistan was handed a permanent visa to remain in Australia in November after leaving his home in the border region near Afghanistan, where he said he was targeted by Muslim extremists. If the amendment to the Citizenship Act passes he could apply for a passport by June 21, the Sydney Morning Herald said on Monday.

Does that mean that permanent residence visa holders will be able to apply for citizenship within the 8-10 months of their visa grant if the prospective changes to the citizenship act come into effect?

Pollyana May 26th 2013 7:26 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by tevta (Post 10726286)
A refugee from Afghanistan was handed a permanent visa to remain in Australia in November after leaving his home in the border region near Afghanistan, where he said he was targeted by Muslim extremists. If the amendment to the Citizenship Act passes he could apply for a passport by June 21, the Sydney Morning Herald said on Monday.

Does that mean that permanent residence visa holders will be able to apply for citizenship within the 8-10 months of their visa grant if the prospective changes to the citizenship act come into effect?
Do you have a link to these "prospective changes"?

xhuyx May 26th 2013 7:40 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
This is the link for the story:

http://beta.dawn.com/news/1014139/cl...tizenship-move

But I can not find anything on the "prospective changes"

Dorothy May 26th 2013 9:15 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by xhuyx (Post 10726305)
This is the link for the story:

http://beta.dawn.com/news/1014139/cl...tizenship-move

But I can not find anything on the "prospective changes"
That's a story about cricket. Nowhere in there does it say anything about Mr Ahmed being granted Australian citizenship. Could you perhaps point out where it does?

xhuyx May 26th 2013 9:45 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 10726433)
That's a story about cricket. Nowhere in there does it say anything about Mr Ahmed being granted Australian citizenship. Could you perhaps point out where it does?
"...Former refugee Ahmed, 31, will be eligible if minor changes to Australia's citizenship legislation pass through parliament in the next few weeks."

I guess this is just an application under the special resident requirement.

Dorothy May 27th 2013 12:13 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by xhuyx (Post 10726483)
"...Former refugee Ahmed, 31, will be eligible if minor changes to Australia's citizenship legislation pass through parliament in the next few weeks."

I guess this is just an application under the special resident requirement.
Eligible for what? To play for the Australian cricket team? Citizenship? The article doesn't say. Perhaps he's eligible for an Afgan passport.

Your link really doesn't say anything.

stuie83 May 27th 2013 12:23 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 10726685)
Eligible for what? To play for the Australian cricket team? Citizenship? The article doesn't say. Perhaps he's eligible for an Afgan passport.

Your link really doesn't say anything.
I don't think Afgan passport authorities are too interested in Australian Citizenship legislation. So I guess it's an Australian passport he's after.

Pollyana May 27th 2013 12:56 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
As this appears to be a discussion of a news article and no-one has come up with details of these "changes" I'm moving it to the Barbie.

roaringmouse May 27th 2013 2:22 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
It's all about cricket, and trying to get someone who can actually spin bowl on the Australian cricket team in time for the Ashes! (He was a Pakistani refugee but now has PR)

tevta May 27th 2013 7:43 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
To be able to play in Australian national cricket team, one must be an Australian citizen. I thought they were amending some of the immigration laws to shorten the process of getting citizenship from PR. However, I reckon his case is considered to be a special one as they want him to play in Ashes series from Australian side.

Pollyana May 27th 2013 7:57 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by tevta (Post 10727401)
To be able to play in Australian national cricket team, one must be an Australian citizen. I thought they were amending some of the immigration laws to shorten the process of getting citizenship from PR. However, I reckon his case is considered to be a special one as they want him to play in Ashes series from Australian side.
Its not that long since they lengthened the time required to apply for citizenship. Can't imagine they will reduce it again so soon.

roaringmouse May 27th 2013 9:22 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10727436)
Its not that long since they lengthened the time required to apply for citizenship. Can't imagine they will reduce it again so soon.
Depends how desperate they are after losing the last 2 Ashes. If they lose the next 2, then they might just give away citizenship for anyone who can convincingly throw or hit a ball! Can't be having the poms winning again.

AlliF May 27th 2013 10:00 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10727561)
Depends how desperate they are after losing the last 2 Ashes. If they lose the next 2, then they might just give away citizenship for anyone who can convincingly throw or hit a ball! Can't be having the poms winning again.
:rofl:
Actually that sounds pretty plausible really.

Pollyana May 27th 2013 10:01 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10727561)
Depends how desperate they are after losing the last 2 Ashes. If they lose the next 2, then they might just give away citizenship for anyone who can convincingly throw or hit a ball! Can't be having the poms winning again.
Is Deadvim a citizen yet I wonder? :sneaky:

GarryP May 27th 2013 12:52 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Hmm,

A little research throws up only one bill before Parliament on citizenship that isn't at the assent stage or passed - the "Migration and Security Legislation Amendment (Review of Security Assessments) Bill 2012". That's to do with security assessment and protection visas.

So I'd assume if there is any change, it's someone sneaking a line into a bill to specifically allow this individual to play cricket. That's unless he has a partner with the ADF who has citizenship and the reporter is getting the wrong end of the Australian Citizenship Amendment (Defence Families) Bill 2012 that Jen1977au has recently got citizenship under.

commonwealth May 27th 2013 3:10 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!!!


Guess who's now an Aussie? :D

old.sparkles May 27th 2013 8:59 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by commonwealth (Post 10727852)
Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!!!


Guess who's now an Aussie? :D
Missed this earlier - Congratulations Commonwealth :)

IvanM May 27th 2013 9:04 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Is this a fast track to the ashes team?
Originally Posted by commonwealth (Post 10727852)
Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!!!


Guess who's now an Aussie? :D

Beoz May 28th 2013 12:08 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10727561)
Depends how desperate they are after losing the last 2 Ashes. If they lose the next 2, then they might just give away citizenship for anyone who can convincingly throw or hit a ball! Can't be having the poms winning again.
Can't believe the Aussies are copying the Poms tactics

Jilliebee May 28th 2013 12:46 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by commonwealth (Post 10727852)
Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!!!


Guess who's now an Aussie? :D
Congratulations x
:thumbsup:

roaringmouse May 28th 2013 1:52 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 10728464)
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10727561)
Depends how desperate they are after losing the last 2 Ashes. If they lose the next 2, then they might just give away citizenship for anyone who can convincingly throw or hit a ball! Can't be having the poms winning again.
Can't believe the Aussies are copying the Poms tactics
I don't recall the UK changing it's nationality laws for this purpose?

Pollyana May 28th 2013 5:48 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10728638)
I don't recall the UK changing it's nationality laws for this purpose?
Haven't yet seen any proof that Australia's citizenship laws are changing either......

roaringmouse May 28th 2013 8:55 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10729052)
Haven't yet seen any proof that Australia's citizenship laws are changing either......
Just keep an eye on the cricket ;)

Famous 5 May 29th 2013 1:29 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by tevta (Post 10726286)
A refugee from Afghanistan was handed a permanent visa to remain in Australia in November after leaving his home in the border region near Afghanistan, where he said he was targeted by Muslim extremists. If the amendment to the Citizenship Act passes he could apply for a passport by June 21, the Sydney Morning Herald said on Monday.

Does that mean that permanent residence visa holders will be able to apply for citizenship within the 8-10 months of their visa grant if the prospective changes to the citizenship act come into effect?
Now also being reported by the ABC

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-3...law-ch/4722380

GarryP May 29th 2013 2:10 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by Famous 5 (Post 10731661)
I assume it has to be a quick amendment to one of those bills awaiting assent, since I assume they want to action it immediately and if the rest is still in debate that would slow things down. Can't give him citizenship if its not an act.

Boy, them aussies really don't want too bad a drubbing in the Ashes, do they?

tartankoala May 29th 2013 10:05 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by tevta (Post 10726286)
Does that mean that permanent residence visa holders will be able to apply for citizenship within the 8-10 months of their visa grant if the prospective changes to the citizenship act come into effect?
No

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-3...law-ch/4722380

Immigration and Citizenship Minister Brendan O'Connor's moved an amendment this morning which will enable citizenship to be fast-tracked in special circumstances.

The measure will give the minister personal power to apply shorter residential requirements on some citizenship applicants, including elite athletes.

Generally, it would cover people who required Australian citizenship to engage in activity of benefit to Australia but did not meet the normal residential requirements.

O'Connor said the measure would give the minister discretion to "provide a pathway to citizenship to a very small number of people in very exceptional circumstances, where their becoming a citizen would be of benefit to Australia".
I'd say the bit's I've highlighted exclude 99.999% of Joe Bloggs Permie Resident Visa holders.

moneypenny20 May 31st 2013 9:55 pm
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10728638)
I don't recall the UK changing it's nationality laws for this purpose?
Zola Budd in the 80s comes to mind. Although they didn't change the laws they just 'manipulated' them slightly. ;)

roaringmouse Jun 1st 2013 4:42 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10735416)
Zola Budd in the 80s comes to mind. Although they didn't change the laws they just 'manipulated' them slightly. ;)
At least she had fairly close British ancestry.

IvanM Jun 1st 2013 10:36 am
Re: Changes in citizenship act
 
I wonder if this will bring Australia back to the days of fast track approval for head Mafiosi.

Originally Posted by tartankoala (Post 10732188)
No

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-3...law-ch/4722380


I'd say the bit's I've highlighted exclude 99.999% of Joe Bloggs Permie Resident Visa holders.


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