Change is Good
Feb 26th 2016, 8:31 pm
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Re: Change is Good
I think MS have some way to go on that price. As we know (see Apple) consumer hardware makes money, loads of it.
Feb 26th 2016, 9:29 pm
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Re: Change is Good
Have YOU seen the figures?
https://marketrealist.imgix.net/uplo...ax&auto=format
I'm sure MS would love to parley their business desktop space into cloud revenue, but the big boy is still Amazon with little sign that'll change soon. It's interesting to note, cloud for Microsoft is something of a zero sum game. Apps and data move from local MS software instances to cloud instances, losing them revenue from one area as it increases in another - not something Amazon have to worry about.
https://marketrealist.imgix.net/uplo...ax&auto=format
I'm sure MS would love to parley their business desktop space into cloud revenue, but the big boy is still Amazon with little sign that'll change soon. It's interesting to note, cloud for Microsoft is something of a zero sum game. Apps and data move from local MS software instances to cloud instances, losing them revenue from one area as it increases in another - not something Amazon have to worry about.
Not sure they are losing renenue unless the last year has been particularly bad.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...P_fZpEA-rAPBug
And on market share it seems Amazon is not growing as fast as the other. Looks like MS is taking up the slack left by the others.
Feb 27th 2016, 1:48 am
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Re: Change is Good
Boz: *I've been searching your particular problem but I cannot find anything online. Got a link?*
Nope. There are so many diverse and often random things that seem to affect W10, quite apart from the deliberate insertions that M$ have included that it's not something I spent too much time on - it was the last straw. (As I mentioned, the M$ shop in Sydney admitted that it was something they had had complaints about.)
Just played golf with a partner: he's had W10 up to here, driven both his wife and himself crackers with similar random things, and is about to revert to ...wait for it!..... Vista!
Nope. There are so many diverse and often random things that seem to affect W10, quite apart from the deliberate insertions that M$ have included that it's not something I spent too much time on - it was the last straw. (As I mentioned, the M$ shop in Sydney admitted that it was something they had had complaints about.)
Just played golf with a partner: he's had W10 up to here, driven both his wife and himself crackers with similar random things, and is about to revert to ...wait for it!..... Vista!
Feb 27th 2016, 2:42 am
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Boz: *I've been searching your particular problem but I cannot find anything online. Got a link?*
Nope. There are so many diverse and often random things that seem to affect W10, quite apart from the deliberate insertions that M$ have included that it's not something I spent too much time on - it was the last straw. (As I mentioned, the M$ shop in Sydney admitted that it was something they had had complaints about.)
Just played golf with a partner: he's had W10 up to here, driven both his wife and himself crackers with similar random things, and is about to revert to ...wait for it!..... Vista!
Nope. There are so many diverse and often random things that seem to affect W10, quite apart from the deliberate insertions that M$ have included that it's not something I spent too much time on - it was the last straw. (As I mentioned, the M$ shop in Sydney admitted that it was something they had had complaints about.)
Just played golf with a partner: he's had W10 up to here, driven both his wife and himself crackers with similar random things, and is about to revert to ...wait for it!..... Vista!
Funny about the MS shop. The one and only time I went in there was when I was going for my last phone upgrade. I really like the Win10 phone UI. I got chatting with one of the sales staff about the app store and he was brutally honest on that subject too. Garry should take a visit - sounds like their strategy is opposite selling. Talk it right down - see what happens. So it was another Galaxy for me.
When I upgraded the wifes laplet to W10 she hated it. I let her run on it for a few days, screaming and kicking. "Where is everything. I was used to the other version" Once I showed her how to find the stuff - Windows key, start typing, enter and a few other tricks, she was fine. I asked her last night if I should roll it back - standard predictable response " No I'm used to it now"...... I laughed.
Change is good but humans hate it. Sounds to me, with no evidence of the problem the main issue with Win10 is change.
Good reason for Apple doing sweet f all with their OS for years.
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Feb 27th 2016, 5:19 am
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Re: Change is Good
I suppose the more interesting question here is, how do you tell a good change, from a bad one? I think everyone recognises that not all change is good, but here are a few pointers to sifting the wheat from the chaff.
- It's being sold in nebulous terms, or about a far future. Frankly if it's not going to deliver something today, you really don't have a lot of hope that it'll be right tomorrow either.
- It's being sold by a politician, particularly as 'necessary pain'. If someone's going to win out of it, it's not going to be you.
- It's being sold as 'easier', but there's nothing concrete to demonstrate it's easier, just different.
- "Will improve efficiency" = job losses. Also 'automate'.
- The person/group implementing the change have never actually done what they are changing, and have changed their parts in glorious isolation from the rest of the system.
- They can't point to one easily understandable, concrete, benefit.
Feb 27th 2016, 8:32 am
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I suppose the more interesting question here is, how do you tell a good change, from a bad one? I think everyone recognises that not all change is good, but here are a few pointers to sifting the wheat from the chaff.
- It's being sold in nebulous terms, or about a far future. Frankly if it's not going to deliver something today, you really don't have a lot of hope that it'll be right tomorrow either.
- It's being sold by a politician, particularly as 'necessary pain'. If someone's going to win out of it, it's not going to be you.
- It's being sold as 'easier', but there's nothing concrete to demonstrate it's easier, just different.
- "Will improve efficiency" = job losses. Also 'automate'.
- The person/group implementing the change have never actually done what they are changing, and have changed their parts in glorious isolation from the rest of the system.
- They can't point to one easily understandable, concrete, benefit.
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Feb 27th 2016, 8:59 am
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The 'do something' change. Either they have to 'do something' so it looks like they are not sitting back on their a**e, or they 'do something' to ensure there's no traceability so their performance can't be assessed (get on those reorg boots).
Feb 27th 2016, 12:16 pm
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Constantly casting people who use other tech to yourself as using inferior judgment, without actually having deep knowledge of each thing being compared, is a classic symptom. 
There's been a lot so you had better pop on over and I'll show you as can't type it all...I want to watch your eyes to see if you're listening or just fishing for an angle
Feb 27th 2016, 8:06 pm
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Oh, I think you'd do fine Constantly casting people who use other tech to yourself as using inferior judgment, without actually having deep knowledge of each thing being compared, is a classic symptom.
There's been a lot so you had better pop on over and I'll show you as can't type it all...I want to watch your eyes to see if you're listening or just fishing for an angle
Constantly casting people who use other tech to yourself as using inferior judgment, without actually having deep knowledge of each thing being compared, is a classic symptom. There's been a lot so you had better pop on over and I'll show you as can't type it all...I want to watch your eyes to see if you're listening or just fishing for an angle
Interestingly I was at a party last night and a couple of lads were moaning about the battery life on their iphone 6's, so I pulled out the Note and said why don't you get one of these. Then one guy said "I'm so used to the iphone, I can't be arsed learning a new phone" ........ giggles giggles giggles .......
Change is good.
Feb 27th 2016, 8:29 pm
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I request pithy comebacks that make logical sense please ? As I said I am a professional developer and this lack of logic is killing me 
Fascinating stuff. Fanboi, meet fanboi
Interestingly I was at a party last night and a couple of lads were moaning about the battery life on their iphone 6's, so I pulled out the Note and said why don't you get one of these. Then one guy said "I'm so used to the iphone, I can't be arsed learning a new phone" ........ giggles giggles giggles .......
Change is good.
Change is good.
