Wol

>>The Gillard/Brown carbon tax is classic hard-left wealth redistribution - nothing more, nothing less.<<

You should be careful eating that out-of-date biltong, Amazulu - the toxins can do untold damage....

GarryP

Via differential irradiance it increases temperature to a level that adversely effects the environment making it difficult for species to survive and putting the entire ecosystem at risk.

Its pretty obvious its a pollutant.

What it may do in lower concentrations and different contexts is besides the point. It's man made pollution.

NO, 300ppm > 390ppm is a 30% increase. And its not minuscule in terms of the effect, the only terms that matter.

I don't think you realise how much your statements piss me off. It's a serious subject and you play the troll (I'm assuming you are claiming black is white with full understanding its laughable). That a viewpoint that millions of ignorant americans also hold - and they are effectively killing millions of people down the line because they don't want to take it seriously. What do you call someone who kills millions because they won't face realities like adults?

What words I might have used are minimal in comparison to the disgust I feel at those who can blithely ignore reality, claim that black is white, and through that ignorant attitude cause so much destruction down the line.

jimbo_d

Garry, have a read of some research by this chap from Perth called David Archibald. It's interesting stuff, solar cycle 24 has recently occurred.

http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/SolarCycle24.pdf

It will be an interesting time over the next few years to see which way the climate does indeed go, hotter or cooler there's plenty of evidence to support either theory.

Insulting people and saying they're going to be responsible for the deaths of millions is going a bit too far hey chap?

Reducing emissions and recycling more can only benefit everything, however new taxes are not going to solve anything. You can guarantee the money will not be redistributed evenly to compensate those who lose their jobs.

cresta57

Excellent book, followed up by Tandia where those Boer bully boys get their revenge by killing him. lol It's a top story as well though

hevs

Well thanks Sean, saves me reading them now then

cresta57

Not at all the back cover tells you that snippet, not in the same wording granted. If you don't have a copy [Tandia] I'll bring our one down in April
All his books have a death or two Hevs it's just how he writes.
Whitethorn is good as well. But the Solomon's Song trilogy is one of my favourite books
Are we sufficiently off topic yet?

hevs

I wish I had a "give the bird" smiley!!
I have read a few and love them

Amazulu

carbon is not a pollutant
MMGW is not happening
it is what it is

Amazulu

Biltong did taste a bit funny the other day now that you come to mention it

carbon is not a pollutant
MMGW is not happening
it is what it is

Amazulu

A ridiculous post I know, but I was replying to an even more ridiculous post so somewhat justified

mr mover

And i am an OSTRICH....repeat several times ..........MM

Amazulu

Dude, this post is out there for everyone to see - and yet again nobody bats an eyelid and some even engage you in conversation about it. And as usual, the mods do nothing. Yet again, the massive double standards on BE are on display.

You may as well keep on posting your racist bile - you're going to get away with it anyway

Party on, Hard Yards

GarryP

Might like to read this along side it.
http://n3xus6.blogspot.com/2007/02/dd.html
Yep, its really that bad.
PS solar irradiance is data that's measured and incorporated.

The real problem is that if anything, I'm underplaying it.

People hear 1C, 2C even 5C and think "oh, it will be like summer in autumn; I can handle that. They never seem to take onboard that its climate, not weather, and that the knock on effects of that simple number are so dramatic. There's the mismatch between crops and weather, the more extreme weather, the feedback effects, the acidification of the ocean, the availability of water, the rising sea levels, the failing ice caps, the ocean circulation - and a hundred other interrelated system that all get a sledgehammer applied to them by that little number.

It doesn't cover the full extent of the hit in the same way "some poor people in the US will be charged an extra 2% mortgage interest" doesn't cover the global financial meltdown.

Now the reason that such small changes have such big effects is just how picky humanity is for survival, and how over populated the globe is at the moment. If things go wrong on a global scale, those feedback loops in human society act to magnify the effect; like derivatives did in the financial market. Before you know where you are you have 50 millions staving people from one country trying to get into another because the crops failed and the government collapsed.

As I say, millions is playing things down.

cresta57

That's not true as you well know. The first time he was banned for a week, this time he carefully placed lime at the bottom. While we all know he's baiting you do you report it? No!
Do we ban him for mentioning a fruit?
Yes we all also know what the inference is here & it's not clever.
You have to accept that not all are blessed with the same level of intelligence. A mechanical engineer interacting with a bloke that lifts boxes for a living, did you really expect an articulate answer?

Amazulu

I partly see your point but it's up to you as mods to do what you need to (or not) do. I will never report anything to a mod as I can fight my own battles and, ultimately, this is just a website. My post was also directed at my fellow BE'ers, and from them there is not a peep.

Articulate answer? No - he is what he is, so fair point