Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
There can be a problem at primary school, where the child has the same teacher for most subjects, if they simply don't get on with each other. Steve Biddulph says “boys learn teachers, not subjects” and I have found this to be true.
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
Yes, the information is provided to the school but is only available to parents through discussion with the class teacher (according to Education Measurement).
There can be a problem at primary school, where the child has the same teacher for most subjects, if they simply don't get on with each other. Steve Biddulph says “boys learn teachers, not subjects” and I have found this to be true.
There can be a problem at primary school, where the child has the same teacher for most subjects, if they simply don't get on with each other. Steve Biddulph says “boys learn teachers, not subjects” and I have found this to be true.
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If you're confident about that then spend $500 with an appropriate psychologist and get him tested. There are a number of different standard for testing depending on age and the situation different tests might be used (WISC4/WIAT/SB5).
We had our duaghter tested with WISC/WIAT to determine a) What her mental strengths and inherent capabilities were (IQ) and b) How her learnt skills are relative to her peers. We were quite surprised by the findings and more than the simple quantified 'results' of the testing it was the comments and recommendations of the psychologist that wer of most interest.
Her school, after reading the report and a few discussions agreed to push her up a year and allow her access to pretty much all of the extension 'break-out' classes to try and help keep her busy.
As far as I can tell by talking to lots of parents of 'gifted' kids school vary alot in how they are prepared to handle things - but good schools WILL make provisions provided you give them quantified evidence to satisfy the bureacracy.
We had our duaghter tested with WISC/WIAT to determine a) What her mental strengths and inherent capabilities were (IQ) and b) How her learnt skills are relative to her peers. We were quite surprised by the findings and more than the simple quantified 'results' of the testing it was the comments and recommendations of the psychologist that wer of most interest.
Her school, after reading the report and a few discussions agreed to push her up a year and allow her access to pretty much all of the extension 'break-out' classes to try and help keep her busy.
As far as I can tell by talking to lots of parents of 'gifted' kids school vary alot in how they are prepared to handle things - but good schools WILL make provisions provided you give them quantified evidence to satisfy the bureacracy.
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
Yes, the information is provided to the school but is only available to parents through discussion with the class teacher (according to Education Measurement).
There can be a problem at primary school, where the child has the same teacher for most subjects, if they simply don't get on with each other. Steve Biddulph says “boys learn teachers, not subjects” and I have found this to be true.
There can be a problem at primary school, where the child has the same teacher for most subjects, if they simply don't get on with each other. Steve Biddulph says “boys learn teachers, not subjects” and I have found this to be true.
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
If you're confident about that then spend $500 with an appropriate psychologist and get him tested. There are a number of different standard for testing depending on age and the situation different tests might be used (WISC4/WIAT/SB5).
We had our duaghter tested with WISC/WIAT to determine a) What her mental strengths and inherent capabilities were (IQ) and b) How her learnt skills are relative to her peers. We were quite surprised by the findings and more than the simple quantified 'results' of the testing it was the comments and recommendations of the psychologist that wer of most interest.
We had our duaghter tested with WISC/WIAT to determine a) What her mental strengths and inherent capabilities were (IQ) and b) How her learnt skills are relative to her peers. We were quite surprised by the findings and more than the simple quantified 'results' of the testing it was the comments and recommendations of the psychologist that wer of most interest.
Her school, after reading the report and a few discussions agreed to push her up a year and allow her access to pretty much all of the extension 'break-out' classes to try and help keep her busy.
As far as I can tell by talking to lots of parents of 'gifted' kids school vary alot in how they are prepared to handle things - but good schools WILL make provisions provided you give them quantified evidence to satisfy the bureacracy.
As far as I can tell by talking to lots of parents of 'gifted' kids school vary alot in how they are prepared to handle things - but good schools WILL make provisions provided you give them quantified evidence to satisfy the bureacracy.
My poor lad had a terrible time last year, as did most of the boys unfortunate enough to have this teacher. We had high hopes for this year, but instead of the bright shiny star teacher we were promised, yet another dud. I fail to understand how these teachers can believe that the work is at the right level, it's not, perhaps only for the kids who struggle a bit. In fact, it's not good enough for them either. A couple of months ago I managed to get out of him why he had pretty much stopped doing any work at school, except for the stupidly easy spelling he was given and the stupidly easy maths. The totally useless, vindictive w*@2#! Year 4 teacher psychologically traumatised him:curse:. He's now pretty much lost this year at school as well.
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
He had a bad Term 1 interim report and a bad Semester 1 report. I had to alert them to the bad Term 1 report and about 3 weeks later they contacted me to go to a meeting to warn me about the Semester 1 report and poor NAPLAN results. They literally rehearsed NAPLAN answers all of Term 1 and right up to the tests themselves in Term 2. It seems to me as if the NAPLAN scores are valued by the teachers because it looks like they are doing a good job, if the results are good.
I have heard a whisper or two that the school's results are not that good and quite a few parents are not happy about their children's results.
His NAPLAN results seems to show that he has made no progress in reading or spelling, has improved on grammar & punctuation, and has fallen behind in writing and numeracy. This is all compared to the school and national averages, not looking at the band level, ie he has made no progress and others have.
I have heard a whisper or two that the school's results are not that good and quite a few parents are not happy about their children's results.
His NAPLAN results seems to show that he has made no progress in reading or spelling, has improved on grammar & punctuation, and has fallen behind in writing and numeracy. This is all compared to the school and national averages, not looking at the band level, ie he has made no progress and others have.
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
Just a thought as I couldn't help noticing the Eek's in your posts after the numeracy result. I have a strongly held belief that kids who's generally perform badly in numeracy will 'suffer' a similar trend in other areas of study eventually. For such kids personal maths tuition for a year or two would be beneficial as it instills confidence. At least that's my experience with one of my sprogs - who (in my opinion independant of what her teacher or maths naplan test results suggested) seemed to be struggling for a while. I kept insisting on the tuition and glad to report all is well with her schooling.
This school really hates it when kids go to tutoring. They make negative comments to you, about you to other parents and teachers, but worse of all, they make negative comments to the kids themselves. This is all an effort to undermine you and your child. My son and another child have both had the class teacher may comments like, "it's bad going to tutors, they're not proper teachers" and "tutoring is not good for you, you should be taught by teachers in schools". The irony goes right over their heads.
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Narrow minded bigotry seems rife.
Cann you change schools rather than struggle on with this one?
Cann you change schools rather than struggle on with this one?
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Re: Can any teachers help with NAPLAN result questions?
Strategies used by parents at our school are to go to tutoring and/or to teach the child extra stuff after school or at the weekend. This is an extra burden on families and kids (financial, time and effort), when other state school kids in WA get appropriate teaching for free, during school time.
You can also take the issue to a level higher than the school, after showing that you have communicated to the school about your child's special needs, and that the school hasn't met them. To try and stop me communicating with them, the class teacher refused to give me her email address (but gave it to other parents, who kindly passed it on) and the deputy airhead told me that she would keep me informed about my child's progress, instead of me asking the teacher how he was doing. Said deputy airhead then didn't keep me informed, so I've got her there. I can show that his performance has dived and that they didn't appropriately inform me, and that they haven't taken any action to turn it around. Actually, their action was to provide him with even easier work, to build his confidence - the confidence that they have damaged by their actions. So, he and others are bored by the easiness of the normal classwork, but the teacher is giving him even easier work.