Bye bye Liberal Government..... will you ever learn.
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Re: Bye bye Liberal Government..... will you ever learn.
Oh, did you utter something?
In any case, I think I kind of comprehensively answered that strawman in the first thing I posted.
Here's the thing - a strategic answer to the issue doesn't involve tinkering - it addresses the underlying issues. You won't even face the underlying issue (treating housing as an investment vehicle) - so you can't get at a strategic answer (which has to be at the federal level).
In any case, I think I kind of comprehensively answered that strawman in the first thing I posted.
Here's the thing - a strategic answer to the issue doesn't involve tinkering - it addresses the underlying issues. You won't even face the underlying issue (treating housing as an investment vehicle) - so you can't get at a strategic answer (which has to be at the federal level).
Well Victorians, your dumb arse Labor government just screwed over your first home buyers.
Existing property owners and investors should be rejoicing. I might buy myself an investment in Melbourne.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/buying/housing-affordability-will-probably-deteriorate-once-victorias-new-first-homebuyer-incentives-are-introduced/news-story/367771071d740eb5434a19d3bfb03e95
Last edited by Beoz; Mar 6th 2017 at 7:33 am.
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So the cuts will make absolutely no difference to our stores staff ratio on Sunday trading...
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Asians will quickly open up a tea shop in the same spot and work 20 hrs a day keeping all the jobs within their family and accepting cash only so they can fiddle their tax to minimise/negate any contributions.
Pauline Hanson will whip every bogan Aussie feral into a frenzy demanding they "all go home" Rioters will burn down the whole street causing millions of dollars in damage. Insurance premiums will rocket and everyone will blame Bill Shorten. And all because the poorest workers in our society lost 25% of their Sunday wage so the nation could have a cappuccino on a Sunday
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The reality will be she'll hire another member of staff, however, 2 out of the existing 3 will quit their jobs because they can't afford to make existing payments on their new rate, She'll then hire a couple of inexperienced school leavers who don't know their arse from their elbow but are cheaper than trained staff They'll drop plates and spill coffee's, people will get fed up of the sloppiness & waiting, the new bad name will spread causing less walk- ins. Business will suffer terribly and she'll close up shop putting one and all out of a job.
Asians will quickly open up a tea shop in the same spot and work 20 hrs a day keeping all the jobs within their family and accepting cash only so they can fiddle their tax to minimise/negate any contributions.
Pauline Hanson will whip every bogan Aussie feral into a frenzy demanding they "all go home" Rioters will burn down the whole street causing millions of dollars in damage. Insurance premiums will rocket and everyone will blame Bill Shorten. And all because the poorest workers in our society lost 25% of their Sunday wage so the nation could have a cappuccino on a Sunday
Asians will quickly open up a tea shop in the same spot and work 20 hrs a day keeping all the jobs within their family and accepting cash only so they can fiddle their tax to minimise/negate any contributions.
Pauline Hanson will whip every bogan Aussie feral into a frenzy demanding they "all go home" Rioters will burn down the whole street causing millions of dollars in damage. Insurance premiums will rocket and everyone will blame Bill Shorten. And all because the poorest workers in our society lost 25% of their Sunday wage so the nation could have a cappuccino on a Sunday
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Are you insinuating that I'm lying? I can assure you, since I started working full time for this company 5 years ago, I have been paid 150% for working Sunday's, in RETAIL!!
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http://www.fairwork.gov.au/awards-and-agreements/awards/award-summary/ma000004-summary
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-23/weekend-penalty-rates-fair-work-commission-decision/8295758?pfmredir=sm
Maybe you want to pass more information if the standard doesn't apply to you.
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Keep your hair on.
Retail Award - Award summary - Fair Work Ombudsman
Sunday and public holiday penalty rates will be reduced for hospitality, retail workers, Fair Work Commission rules - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Maybe you want to pass more information if the standard doesn't apply to you.
Retail Award - Award summary - Fair Work Ombudsman
Sunday and public holiday penalty rates will be reduced for hospitality, retail workers, Fair Work Commission rules - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Maybe you want to pass more information if the standard doesn't apply to you.
Who the Retail Award covers
The Retail Award covers employers in the general retail industry and their employees who fit within the classifications of the award.
The general retail industry means the sale or hire of goods or services to final consumers for personal, household or business consumption and includes:
retailers (such as supermarket or grocery stores)
department stores (such as stores selling clothes or soft goods)
stores selling:
furniture and household appliances
recreational goods
personal and household goods
household equipment repair services (electronic devices)
bakery shops mainly baking products to sell on the same premises
retail travel agencies
customer information and assistance provided by shopping centres or retail complexes
newspaper deliveries by a newsagency
clerical work done in a retail store
retail poultry store
retail activities conducted from a seafood processing establishment
businesses engaged in supporting vending machines.
Examples of employees covered by the Retail Award include:
check-out operators and sales assistants
stock hands and shelf stackers
door to door salespersons
trolley collectors
service supervisors, department and store managers
tradespersons such as butchers, bakers and florists
an employee selling travel packages to final consumers (eg. retail travel agencies)
back-office employees performing clerical work in a retail shop
electrical device repairers (mobile phones, tablets etc)
photographer (where the business is selling the photos to a consumer).
The Retail Award also covers labour hire businesses and their employees who are placed with an organisation in the retail industry.
Check the award for full information on who is covered and the classification descriptions.
Source reference: General Retail Industry Award 2010 [MA000004] clauses 3, 4 and schedule B external-icon.png
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Yes, my job is included in the above link you added. Still only got paid 150% for working Sunday's.
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Who the Retail Award covers
The Retail Award covers employers in the general retail industry and their employees who fit within the classifications of the award.
The general retail industry means the sale or hire of goods or services to final consumers for personal, household or business consumption and includes:
retailers (such as supermarket or grocery stores)
department stores (such as stores selling clothes or soft goods)
stores selling:
furniture and household appliances
recreational goods
personal and household goods
household equipment repair services (electronic devices)
bakery shops mainly baking products to sell on the same premises
retail travel agencies
customer information and assistance provided by shopping centres or retail complexes
newspaper deliveries by a newsagency
clerical work done in a retail store
retail poultry store
retail activities conducted from a seafood processing establishment
businesses engaged in supporting vending machines.
Examples of employees covered by the Retail Award include:
check-out operators and sales assistants
stock hands and shelf stackers
door to door salespersons
trolley collectors
service supervisors, department and store managers
tradespersons such as butchers, bakers and florists
an employee selling travel packages to final consumers (eg. retail travel agencies)
back-office employees performing clerical work in a retail shop
electrical device repairers (mobile phones, tablets etc)
photographer (where the business is selling the photos to a consumer).
The Retail Award also covers labour hire businesses and their employees who are placed with an organisation in the retail industry.
Check the award for full information on who is covered and the classification descriptions.
Source reference: General Retail Industry Award 2010 [MA000004] clauses 3, 4 and schedule B external-icon.png
Expand for more information
Yes, my job is included in the above link you added. Still only got paid 150% for working Sunday's.
The Retail Award covers employers in the general retail industry and their employees who fit within the classifications of the award.
The general retail industry means the sale or hire of goods or services to final consumers for personal, household or business consumption and includes:
retailers (such as supermarket or grocery stores)
department stores (such as stores selling clothes or soft goods)
stores selling:
furniture and household appliances
recreational goods
personal and household goods
household equipment repair services (electronic devices)
bakery shops mainly baking products to sell on the same premises
retail travel agencies
customer information and assistance provided by shopping centres or retail complexes
newspaper deliveries by a newsagency
clerical work done in a retail store
retail poultry store
retail activities conducted from a seafood processing establishment
businesses engaged in supporting vending machines.
Examples of employees covered by the Retail Award include:
check-out operators and sales assistants
stock hands and shelf stackers
door to door salespersons
trolley collectors
service supervisors, department and store managers
tradespersons such as butchers, bakers and florists
an employee selling travel packages to final consumers (eg. retail travel agencies)
back-office employees performing clerical work in a retail shop
electrical device repairers (mobile phones, tablets etc)
photographer (where the business is selling the photos to a consumer).
The Retail Award also covers labour hire businesses and their employees who are placed with an organisation in the retail industry.
Check the award for full information on who is covered and the classification descriptions.
Source reference: General Retail Industry Award 2010 [MA000004] clauses 3, 4 and schedule B external-icon.png
Expand for more information
Yes, my job is included in the above link you added. Still only got paid 150% for working Sunday's.
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Re: Bye bye Liberal Government..... will you ever learn.
Who the Retail Award covers
The Retail Award covers employers in the general retail industry and their employees who fit within the classifications of the award.
The general retail industry means the sale or hire of goods or services to final consumers for personal, household or business consumption and includes:
retailers (such as supermarket or grocery stores)
department stores (such as stores selling clothes or soft goods)
stores selling:
furniture and household appliances
recreational goods
personal and household goods
household equipment repair services (electronic devices)
bakery shops mainly baking products to sell on the same premises
retail travel agencies
customer information and assistance provided by shopping centres or retail complexes
newspaper deliveries by a newsagency
clerical work done in a retail store
retail poultry store
retail activities conducted from a seafood processing establishment
businesses engaged in supporting vending machines.
Examples of employees covered by the Retail Award include:
check-out operators and sales assistants
stock hands and shelf stackers
door to door salespersons
trolley collectors
service supervisors, department and store managers
tradespersons such as butchers, bakers and florists
an employee selling travel packages to final consumers (eg. retail travel agencies)
back-office employees performing clerical work in a retail shop
electrical device repairers (mobile phones, tablets etc)
photographer (where the business is selling the photos to a consumer).
The Retail Award also covers labour hire businesses and their employees who are placed with an organisation in the retail industry.
Check the award for full information on who is covered and the classification descriptions.
Source reference: General Retail Industry Award 2010 [MA000004] clauses 3, 4 and schedule B external-icon.png
Expand for more information
Yes, my job is included in the above link you added. Still only got paid 150% for working Sunday's.
The Retail Award covers employers in the general retail industry and their employees who fit within the classifications of the award.
The general retail industry means the sale or hire of goods or services to final consumers for personal, household or business consumption and includes:
retailers (such as supermarket or grocery stores)
department stores (such as stores selling clothes or soft goods)
stores selling:
furniture and household appliances
recreational goods
personal and household goods
household equipment repair services (electronic devices)
bakery shops mainly baking products to sell on the same premises
retail travel agencies
customer information and assistance provided by shopping centres or retail complexes
newspaper deliveries by a newsagency
clerical work done in a retail store
retail poultry store
retail activities conducted from a seafood processing establishment
businesses engaged in supporting vending machines.
Examples of employees covered by the Retail Award include:
check-out operators and sales assistants
stock hands and shelf stackers
door to door salespersons
trolley collectors
service supervisors, department and store managers
tradespersons such as butchers, bakers and florists
an employee selling travel packages to final consumers (eg. retail travel agencies)
back-office employees performing clerical work in a retail shop
electrical device repairers (mobile phones, tablets etc)
photographer (where the business is selling the photos to a consumer).
The Retail Award also covers labour hire businesses and their employees who are placed with an organisation in the retail industry.
Check the award for full information on who is covered and the classification descriptions.
Source reference: General Retail Industry Award 2010 [MA000004] clauses 3, 4 and schedule B external-icon.png
Expand for more information
Yes, my job is included in the above link you added. Still only got paid 150% for working Sunday's.
Something has to give or it's Thatcher time
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Re: Bye bye Liberal Government..... will you ever learn.
Cryptic?? Anyway...
A straightforward answer is that I have never been paid 200% on Sunday's, only 150% has been in play in my retail job for the last 5 years, so no need to re-visit down the track.
A straightforward answer is that I have never been paid 200% on Sunday's, only 150% has been in play in my retail job for the last 5 years, so no need to re-visit down the track.
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