Burning the Australian Flag
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1574071.htm
There's probably better links to explain this story, but this is the best I could come up with.
I personally find it disgusting, even as a non-Australian. The student behind it explained that burning the flag symbolised opposition to the Government and their views on Iraq, terror laws, the Cronulla riots ect and though I have some sympathy for his causes, I think this action is disgraceful and sends the wrong messages out during what is it difficult time.
They obviously want to inflame (sorry not a pun) the situation and this is a great way of doing so, however the little shits behind it simply come across as supporting those against Australia.
Additionally the Aussie flag is not a simple of the Goverment, it is a symbol of Australian history, culture and it's people. Burning the flag is not just an action against government, it is an action against those that built this country.
Anyone disagree?
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There's probably better links to explain this story, but this is the best I could come up with.
I personally find it disgusting, even as a non-Australian. The student behind it explained that burning the flag symbolised opposition to the Government and their views on Iraq, terror laws, the Cronulla riots ect and though I have some sympathy for his causes, I think this action is disgraceful and sends the wrong messages out during what is it difficult time.
They obviously want to inflame (sorry not a pun) the situation and this is a great way of doing so, however the little shits behind it simply come across as supporting those against Australia.
Additionally the Aussie flag is not a simple of the Goverment, it is a symbol of Australian history, culture and it's people. Burning the flag is not just an action against government, it is an action against those that built this country.
Anyone disagree?
Paul.
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Originally Posted by diddy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1574071.htm
There's probably better links to explain this story, but this is the best I could come up with.
I personally find it disgusting, even as a non-Australian. The student behind it explained that burning the flag symbolised opposition to the Government and their views on Iraq, terror laws, the Cronulla riots ect and though I have some sympathy for his causes, I think this action is disgraceful and sends the wrong messages out during what is it difficult time.
They obviously want to inflame (sorry not a pun) the situation and this is a great way of doing so, however the little shits behind it simply come across as supporting those against Australia.
Additionally the Aussie flag is not a simple of the Goverment, it is a symbol of Australian history, culture and it's people. Burning the flag is not just an action against government, it is an action against those that built this country.
Anyone disagree?
Paul.
There's probably better links to explain this story, but this is the best I could come up with.
I personally find it disgusting, even as a non-Australian. The student behind it explained that burning the flag symbolised opposition to the Government and their views on Iraq, terror laws, the Cronulla riots ect and though I have some sympathy for his causes, I think this action is disgraceful and sends the wrong messages out during what is it difficult time.
They obviously want to inflame (sorry not a pun) the situation and this is a great way of doing so, however the little shits behind it simply come across as supporting those against Australia.
Additionally the Aussie flag is not a simple of the Goverment, it is a symbol of Australian history, culture and it's people. Burning the flag is not just an action against government, it is an action against those that built this country.
Anyone disagree?
Paul.
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I'm a proud Aussie, but I couldn't care less about people who burn the flag.
They have a right to protest, and as long as they're doing this in a manner that isn't racist, violent, or contrived to incite racism and violence, then fair play to 'em; they can burn the Aussie flag all day long, and I won't bat an eyelid.
When I see how people protest in other countries (overturning cars and setting them alight; pelting the cops with stones; hurling molotov cocktails; smashing windows on the high street; beating up the local punters, etc.) I consider my country to be getting off lightly with a good old-fashioned flag-burning.
They have a right to protest, and as long as they're doing this in a manner that isn't racist, violent, or contrived to incite racism and violence, then fair play to 'em; they can burn the Aussie flag all day long, and I won't bat an eyelid.
When I see how people protest in other countries (overturning cars and setting them alight; pelting the cops with stones; hurling molotov cocktails; smashing windows on the high street; beating up the local punters, etc.) I consider my country to be getting off lightly with a good old-fashioned flag-burning.
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Its about as disprespectful as wrapping yourself in a aussie flag in the sydney riots and chanting racist abuse, overturning cars, bashing cops, innocent bystanders, smashing up shops, all in the name of racism. The students selling flag kits is pretty tame in comparison at least their complaints about OZ are reasonable, not just racist rubbish. Just attention seeking on some fairly justified concerns, but yeah they could have gone about it in a nicer way, however its all about getting publicity for the cause.
Speaking of media publicity they dragged up some of howards comments from last december (2 days before the mass riots), howard made some good points but the white supremacy debate has started up again because of it, media must have been bored this week![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...55E601,00.html
Speaking of media publicity they dragged up some of howards comments from last december (2 days before the mass riots), howard made some good points but the white supremacy debate has started up again because of it, media must have been bored this week
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Originally Posted by dshole
To me the flag means nothing. So I could not careless. I would rather see effigy's of government ministers burnt instead.
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Its about as disprespectful as wrapping yourself in a aussie flag in the sydney riots and chanting racist abuse, overturning cars, bashing cops, innocent bystanders, smashing up shops, all in the name of racism. The students selling flag kits is pretty tame in comparison at least their complaints about OZ are reasonable, not just racist rubbish. Just attention seeking on some fairly justified concerns, but yeah they could have gone about it in a nicer way, however its all about getting publicity for the cause.
Speaking of media publicity they dragged up some of howards comments from last december (2 days before the mass riots), howard made some good points but the white supremacy debate has started up again because of it, media must have been bored this week![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...55E601,00.html
Speaking of media publicity they dragged up some of howards comments from last december (2 days before the mass riots), howard made some good points but the white supremacy debate has started up again because of it, media must have been bored this week
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
How many cars were overturned and burned during the recent riots in Sydney?
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Post didnt say burned said overturned. We have a better class of yobbo here ![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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So... how many were overturned?
I agree with you on the flag-burning kits. The kids who join Resistance are usually idealistic uni students who wish they lived in a country that really oppressed people!
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Not like the UK, then. ![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
So... how many were overturned?
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So... how many were overturned?
Depends what you watched 40/ 60 or most of several streets.
I dont see your point, are you saying race riots are better here because in the sydney riots cars were written off but its OK cause they were not burnt?
Ok vash, australias all fine and dandy cause the naughty little boys didnt burn cars, maybe the 5000 rioters were just having a picnic.
To me tho, a racist vandal is an asshole be it a uk one or an aussie one.
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Depends what you watched 40/ 60 or most of several streets.
I'm not saying there weren't any overturned cars; I'm just saying that I can't find any record of this in the media reports.
I dont see your point, are you saying race riots are better here because in the sydney riots cars were written off but its OK cause they were not burnt?
Ok vash, australias all fine and dandy cause the naughty little boys didnt burn cars, maybe the 5000 rioters were just having a picnic.
To me tho, a racist vandal is an asshole be it a uk one or an aussie one.
Ok vash, australias all fine and dandy cause the naughty little boys didnt burn cars, maybe the 5000 rioters were just having a picnic.
To me tho, a racist vandal is an asshole be it a uk one or an aussie one.
Good grief, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment, with wink appended to preclude any ambiguity. Too bad you missed it.
Take a chill pill.
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The sybolism is totally lost on me.
They're not burning the aussie flag, they're burning their flag. They went to the flag shop and bought it, then set their flag on fire.
The world's gone mad.
They're not burning the aussie flag, they're burning their flag. They went to the flag shop and bought it, then set their flag on fire.
The world's gone mad.
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I hope all of these disrespectful bastards who buy the kit and set fire to the flag, set themselves alight as well.![Mad](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif)
Removing themselves from the gene pool would be no bad thing!!
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Removing themselves from the gene pool would be no bad thing!!
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Originally Posted by Scossie
I hope all of these disrespectful bastards why buy the kit and set fire to the flag, set themselves alight as well.![Mad](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif)
Removing themselves from the gene pool would be no bad thing!!
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Removing themselves from the gene pool would be no bad thing!!
Bloody oath. Bunch of ****wits.
I heard a spokesman on radio and it was pathetic, then alot of other 20 somethings got on the radio and said they defiantly dont speak for us, we are not like that have respect for what the flag stand for and for the people that have fought under it.
$20 there dreadlocked tree hugging hippys that go from protest to protest.
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Lock them up and throw away the key to whoever burns the flag...
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