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chris955 Oct 4th 2012 1:54 am

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by Almo (Post 10312908)
It was pretty clear from the post that "huge deadly snake 10 feet long" was what the caller said, and that it in fact turned out to be smaller.

Yes it seemed very clear indeed. :thumbup:

chris955 Oct 4th 2012 1:57 am

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by DadAgain (Post 10312847)
Agreed - its a big MOFO, perhaps we can settle on "6ft+" as a description?

Reviewing that picture it does seem relatively fat and short compared to the pythons Ive had around the yard a few times (accurately measured via discarded skins @8ft) so perhaps I'm projecting unreasonably for this brown beastie based on its impressive girth?

Either way I'm spectacularly impressed that he was still there at the end of the day. I hope he hadn't been run over and was just lying there dying? (he still appeared to be in tact. - but I didn't get too close)

I'll check again tomorrow morning!

Yes I would accept 6 feet :D
Just a word of advice when measuring shed skins, they stretch a minimum of 25% so a shed skin measuring 8 feet would come from a snake something like 6 feet in length and probably smaller. :)

Tramps_mate Oct 4th 2012 10:42 am

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Snake looks 7+ feet to me...



lol

DadAgain Oct 4th 2012 10:57 am

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However long he may have been (which ultimately is beside the point isnt it? It was a decent sized snake, capable of dispensing a very serious amount of damage to anyone who chose to get on the sharp end) - he's not there today.

So - either someone picked up and disposed of his body [I'd suggest very carefully], or he wasnt dead, he was resting and has since slithered off elsewhere to go about his snakely duties...

asprilla Oct 4th 2012 1:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 10312931)
Well I checked snake about 2 metres from my wife when she was sitting under tree by the river. It was also brown on top with a green side/belly. About 40cm long and very thick for its body length, about 4cm in diameter. The tail tapered off quickly. It slinked off into the undergrowth before I could get a photo.

Can't ID it from this website.

http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Snake_Identification_and_Infomation.html

Anyway, first wild live snake siting in Oz.

Fits the description of a skink, such as this one:
http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Verreaux.html

Broad Shoulders Oct 4th 2012 2:20 pm

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Originally Posted by asprilla (Post 10314204)
Fits the description of a skink, such as this one:
http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Verreaux.html

yeah, I was in the garden a year or so ago with my little ones running around when one of them yelled snake. I came running over with the shovel and got them away from the area. It looked very similar to that photo in that link, but the legs were invisible, so I took a split second decision to terminate it. It was only after I killed it and turned it over that you could just make out very very tiny little legs (but you had to hold it very close to make them out).

BadgeIsBack Oct 4th 2012 2:47 pm

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Well I am disappointed.

Huntsman - smaller than I realised - I was led to believe they were, like, dinner plates.

Snakes - thick as your wrist - I thought they would be twice that.

I blame the children's books I read....

Japonica Oct 4th 2012 4:26 pm

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Originally Posted by lesleys (Post 10312867)
Are you sure it isn't dead already? The only still snakes I've seen have been dead.

:nod: The only one I've seen was curled up by the side of a bush path. I knocked my neighbour over as I spun around and started running away and she was calling after me, "It's dead, you know!"

Kadphises Oct 4th 2012 7:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 10314254)
yeah, I was in the garden a year or so ago with my little ones running around when one of them yelled snake. I came running over with the shovel and got them away from the area. It looked very similar to that photo in that link, but the legs were invisible, so I took a split second decision to terminate it. It was only after I killed it and turned it over that you could just make out very very tiny little legs (but you had to hold it very close to make them out).

So do you kill any snake or snake-like creature that comes into your vicinity without knowing what it is?

You do realise that quite a few are actually protected by law, including some deadly ones? In a worst case scenario you should be calling a snake-catcher to remove one.

chris955 Oct 4th 2012 7:42 pm

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by Kadphises (Post 10314519)
So do you kill any snake or snake-like creature that comes into your vicinity without knowing what it is?

You do realise that quite a few are actually protected by law, including some deadly ones? In a worst case scenario you should be calling a snake-catcher to remove one.

ALL are protected by law, it makes little difference as I cant recall anyone ever being prosecuted for killing one, just one of those useless laws than noone takes any notice of. Anyway, harmless lizard, dangerous snake, near enough.

Broad Shoulders Oct 4th 2012 7:47 pm

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by Kadphises (Post 10314519)
So do you kill any snake or snake-like creature that comes into your vicinity without knowing what it is?

You do realise that quite a few are actually protected by law, including some deadly ones? In a worst case scenario you should be calling a snake-catcher to remove one.

No, quite the opposite actually. I have a live policy 99% of the time, but when there are potentially deadly animals living in my very small yard when my very small children are around I do take that policy. If it was a dangerous snake that time, it might have just decided to take up residence somewhere in my yard therefore increasing the likelihood of coming into contact again with my kids.

My in-laws live on a property where a brown snake has taken up residency under the outdoor washing machine. They take the same policy, if it is out in the paddocks they leave them alone, however if it comes into their living quarters they destroy them to avoid learned behaviour. I don't agree with needless killing of animals, however when the chances of safety of your family are high because of it I understand it

Kadphises Oct 4th 2012 7:48 pm

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Ah. An interesting fact is that of the about 2 people a year who die of snake bites in Australia, they were either trying to handle them or kill them.

What is wrong with simply leaving it be and go away as long as it's not in the house? In which case call a bloody snake-catcher.

Broad Shoulders Oct 4th 2012 7:51 pm

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10314522)
ALL are protected by law, it makes little difference as I cant recall anyone ever being prosecuted for killing one, just one of those useless laws than noone takes any notice of. Anyway, harmless lizard, dangerous snake, near enough.

....a harmless lizard that just so happens to move like a snake and has barely visible legs, hence why it is so commonly confused with a snake. My decision to terminate it was a split second decision based on my small kids running around in that area and something I am unapologetic for. The alternative was to let it be and watch it go and then spend the next weeks/months wondering when my kids might come into contact with it again. Or call the snake handler and wait the hour or so for them to get there by which time the creature is long gone.

Broad Shoulders Oct 4th 2012 8:00 pm

Re: Brown snake!!! :-)
 

Originally Posted by Kadphises (Post 10314531)
Ah. An interesting fact is that of the about 2 people a year who die of snake bites in Australia, they were either trying to handle them or kill them.

What is wrong with simply leaving it be and go away as long as it's not in the house? In which case call a bloody snake-catcher.

do you actually live in Aus? I assume not. I also assume that you do not have young kids still too young to know not to try and pick a snake up?

Kadphises Oct 4th 2012 8:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 10314552)
do you actually live in Aus? I assume not. I also assume that you do not have young kids still too young to know not to try and pick a snake up?

No, currently I don't (nearly there though). But before you give me any more of the you don't know what it's like attitude - as a child I lived in India and as a grown up I have worked outdoors in Sri Lanka, Syria and Africa. So yes, I know what snakes are and have seen plenty of deadly ones in my life, close and not so close. This does not change my basic attitude.

Snakes are generally not keen on humans and will avoid them where possible. Especially where small children are involved they will duck and slither away quickly in most cases, due to the noise. No I don't have small children, but in that case I'd have grabbed them and moved them inside for a bit and made a regular thing of telling and explaining to them not to touch or pick up.

Also, I might point out that I am not terribly keen on snakes - so this isn't coming from a snake lover.


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