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Bogan Mother Removes Child from school aged 14 so he can go to work

Old Sep 6th 2011, 4:17 am
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My brother wasn't very good with school and left with no qualifications at all. At 16 he started an apprentiship in car bodywork.

At 24 he now owns his own business, and has a considerable amount of money, far more than me, and I'm academically minded and became an Architect.
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Originally Posted by LouiseR
No, there's no need to rush and he probably doesn't need a girlfriend at 14, but it is important to talk to them and socialise with them. It's just laying the ground work for later on life.
Sure. But is school the best environment for achieving that? I'm not convinced. I would say that working with women (even if they're not the same age and not potential life partners) would be much better at producing a healthy approach to male/female relations.

Just a thought.
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some people are better off not being at school they just cause disruption and fritter away their time so well done Eds hope he stays happy
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Originally Posted by Rambi
Sure. But is school the best environment for achieving that? I'm not convinced. I would say that working with women (even if they're not the same age and not potential life partners) would be much better at producing a healthy approach to male/female relations.

Just a thought.
Oh I agree. Any social interaction is important, not just school. But as the previous poster said, how many women are going to be in that environment, not many I'd imagine.

And I think it is important to have a lot of interaction with people around the same age as you at 14. I grew up in a pub that my mum and dad ran and spent a lot of time with older people 18+. I grew up way too fast in my opinion and it's probably no coincidence that my husband is 12 years older than me as are both of my best female friends. Spending a lot of time around older people when you're developing may alienate you from you people of your own age.

As long as he's still knocking around with his school mates after work, and going to youth groups and sports with other kids around his own age it shouldn't be a problem.
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Oh I agree. Any social interaction is important, not just school. But as the previous poster said, how many women are going to be in that environment, not many I'd imagine.

And I think it is important to have a lot of interaction with people around the same age as you at 14. I grew up in a pub that my mum and dad ran and spent a lot of time with older people 18+. I grew up way too fast in my opinion and it's probably no coincidence that my husband is 12 years older than me as are both of my best female friends. Spending a lot of time around older people when you're developing may alienate you from you people of your own age.

As long as he's still knocking around with his school mates after work, and going to youth groups and sports with other kids around his own age it shouldn't be a problem.
I agree that an all male environment and a pub environment are probably not the best socialisation environments but I'm not convinced being socialised with 30 people one's own age is any better. I remember talking to a work mate years ago saying it was funny at school as we hardly used to socialise with anyone who was not in our year (until we hit 6th form). He replied that in his school they didn't really socialise outside of their classroom. As for being aged 14 in a coed school; I can say that from my memory that there was a lot of boasting and peer pressure that wasn't healthy.

I have noticed that home schooled kids (who are not afflicted with aspergers or something similar) tend to socialise over a wider age band than their schooled contemporaries.

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Yup, I asked for opinions on here because I am now ready to hear what others think... The opinions offered at the time were not invited... They were imposed on me at a time I was making a really hard decision.

I would not have been TOTALLY offended if anyone had questioned whether it was right to remove a child from school to start "leanring to work"

My worst thoughts were .... He is going to spend his whole life working why start it now?

I also worried that because although he was now disengaged from the education offered at school he might next become disruptive, I've seen that happen...

i learned things at school that benefited me, but then I suppose I'm academic, this is alien to me in many ways... i loved learning about History.... English etc... I suppose if you have dyslexia (which isnt recognised here) it must make EVERYTHING hard work and therefore painful, not joyful.. Tho he DID love the metal work and woodwork side of things... And always worked hard in those two lessons... His metalwork teacher was actually REALLY supportive... Said he's a good kid, works hard, is able with his hands and brain when it comes to constuction... He actually said that for Gorgeous it was a shame school couldnt just be metal work as he could see unhappy he was in other lessons...

I was ready to hear other, different, opinions and use the discussions to help me justify to myself what I've done...

I use this site that way sometimes... Sorry.... But I do it on MY terms... Not in the shopping centre at rocko being pounced on by some one who disagrees with my actions... Lol
You shouldn't care what others think mate - this is a decision between you, your OH, your son and the Education people and no one else so no worries

As for his dyslexia, I undersand this is a real problem and can make kids feel disjointed and disengaged from school and by you tapping into his strengths you'll give him a purpose and confidence, which is fab

As for people worrying about him meeting girls - cos he's good at metal work maybe get him to make poles for pole dancers

Good onya mate, I hope it works out cos all we want for our kids is that they do well whatever they set out to do
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well after working on a construction site I can say that, yes there are women there (well I was one last time I looked ) and knowing the kind of guys that work there, there will be plenty of opportunity for him to meet girls
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He stills sees his mates after work and at weekends... He has a "girlfriend" but he has a wide circle of mates male and female that doesnt appear to have shrunk since he left school... House is still full of other peoples teens all the bloody time... Perhaps if had always been home educated that would be a problem for me... Having to actively facilitate social interaction/ friendships...

As far as age difference goes being at TAFE....most of the lads are only a couple of years older than him... And he likes being spoken to like a grown up, treated like a grown up... He appears to be responding much better in an adult" learning environment..... He is given work, to get on with every week and he does just that... He sees everything he does as "useful" to life and to work... He has a highly developed ideal of social justice and saw a lot of injustice at school that he isnt witness to now... I know he feels valued when he is at work, can always find something to do... He takes pride in the fact that he sweeps the floors and the lads have told him he keeps it cleaner than the previous "lad" (who has now moved up the foodchain a little)... And knows when the next "lad" comes along HE will progress...



I DO worry about whether I have made the right choice, but I think you do the best thing for your child under your circumstances....
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I DO worry about whether I have made the right choice, but I think you do the best thing for your child under your circumstances....
Of course you do.

The difference when they're doing something they enjoy, or something they see as relevant to where they're going, is quite incredible.

Himself left school with no qualifications, found himself working in a railway related industry and realised that he'd do better if he had a formal qualification. Despite his dyslexia, he put himself through college on day release and did so well in his chosen career that we ended up in Australia

Middlechild, although very bright, is too much like his mother and happy just to drift along on a wave of procrastination and apathy. He did absolutely crap in his Year 12 exams and we feared the worst. But... he realised that if he wanted to have his chosen career, he had to work at it. Now he's at college doing a diploma (and consistently coming top) which will take him straight into the second year of the degree course he wants. Because he can see relevance, because its something he enjoys - he's determined to get there.
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Hey Eddie, you have done what you believe is the best for your kid, and he appears to be thriving. Don't let other people put you down - they are not in your situation and don't know how your family "works". It is too easy to be judgemental when you don't know all the facts.

If you were a real Bogan, you wouldn't give a stuff about what the others thought.
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I DO worry about whether I have made the right choice, but I think you do the best thing for your child under your circumstances....
I reckon in 12 months time you'll be wondering why you were so worried.
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Default Re: Bogan Mother Removes Child from school aged 14 so he can go to work

Originally Posted by eddie007
He stills sees his mates after work and at weekends... He has a "girlfriend" but he has a wide circle of mates male and female that doesnt appear to have shrunk since he left school... House is still full of other peoples teens all the bloody time... Perhaps if had always been home educated that would be a problem for me... Having to actively facilitate social interaction/ friendships...

As far as age difference goes being at TAFE....most of the lads are only a couple of years older than him... And he likes being spoken to like a grown up, treated like a grown up... He appears to be responding much better in an adult" learning environment..... He is given work, to get on with every week and he does just that... He sees everything he does as "useful" to life and to work... He has a highly developed ideal of social justice and saw a lot of injustice at school that he isnt witness to now... I know he feels valued when he is at work, can always find something to do... He takes pride in the fact that he sweeps the floors and the lads have told him he keeps it cleaner than the previous "lad" (who has now moved up the foodchain a little)... And knows when the next "lad" comes along HE will progress...



I DO worry about whether I have made the right choice, but I think you do the best thing for your child under your circumstances....
I agree,i have just done something similiar for my 14 yr old daughter ,its a hard call to make ,but every child is different, and if we arent going to fight their corner ,who is ! good onya x
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Originally Posted by eddie007
OMG

Can you believe it? Theres this woman in Shockingham who took her son out of a school aged 14 so he can go to work 4 days a week and TAFE for one???

The kid was no trouble at school, ok, " disengaged" but not causing any trouble... Nice lad, captain of his primary school... In all the sports teams, footie, soccer, cricket, basketball... Well liked... Has LOADS of friends... Really good at most sports... WTF is she thinking?

Poor child

See him leaving the house with his dad at 0630 every morning and KNOWS he doesnt get home til 1630.... And he reckons he's happy?

What does she think she's doing?
Sounds like an apprenticeship to me. 20 - 25 years ago, many kids either left then - 14yrs 9 mo was the earliest they could in Vic, but I think that it's now 15yrs - or the plan was that they'd go to uni. A few people fell in between these to categories, and would leave for shop work or to be office juniors at 16 (year 11).
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can i add,i think you should of had loads of girlfriends by 14 and lost your cherry...

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