Boat people pour in.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:26 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
Due to the immigration rules, those illegal entrants to the country do cut down the numbers of legal applicants, so that the total remains the same.
Hopefully those waiting in the queue, paying their fees etc, do not mind waiting a bit longer, while the people smugglers, making profits out of those poor refugees who are being shipped in, jump the queue.
And if anyone thinks Christmas Island is a deterrent, think again, they are now heading directly for that island.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:34 am
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Some say it is to make it easier for their legal teams to access them in preparation for their appeals against deportation.
Senator Evans says the men have been deemed not to be genuine asylum seekers by his department, and their transfer to Villawood is part of their "removal pathway".
But he says <...> it is possible some of the men might have the right to stay.
But he says <...> it is possible some of the men might have the right to stay.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:37 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
I used to work at Eurotunnel and witnessed first hand what these people were willing to risk to get into the UK. I remember one fella suffering horrific injuries when he jumped off a train. Much as people complain about them I won't ever forget the state of him and can't bring myself to despise them as some do.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with opening borders, but if one is going to brag about ones country, then one must expect those not so fortunate to want a piece.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with opening borders, but if one is going to brag about ones country, then one must expect those not so fortunate to want a piece.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:38 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
If we are talking about illegal immigrants (the proper terminology is unlawful non-citizen) the issue is not the boat people. Current Australian Government estimates are that there are approximately 46,000 unlawful non-citizens in Australia, of which 26,200 have remained in the country unlawfully for more than 5 years. The largest groups of unlawful non-citizens in Australia come from the United Kingdom and the USA.
With the thread titled "Boat people pour in" I think the issue is boat people
Mar 30th 2010, 4:42 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
Not a single 'boat person' should be allowed into Australia. There should be a zero tolerance policy on this.
Australia takes around 14k people who come in through the UNHCR. This figure will probably continue to grow and I am happy for that to happen. These people have been (hopefully) checked out by the UN and are deemed to be genuine. More of these guys and no boat queue jumpers is the way to go.
Australia takes around 14k people who come in through the UNHCR. This figure will probably continue to grow and I am happy for that to happen. These people have been (hopefully) checked out by the UN and are deemed to be genuine. More of these guys and no boat queue jumpers is the way to go.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:47 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
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With the thread titled "Boat people pour in" I think the issue is boat people[/QUOTE]
Often thread titles have little bearing on the substance - besides it is up to the reader to interpret. I view this thread in more general terms.
When the title states, "boat people pour in" this infers a negative connotation because it is sensationalising something which, when put into context and properly benchmarked, is inaccurate.
With the thread titled "Boat people pour in" I think the issue is boat people
[/QUOTE]Often thread titles have little bearing on the substance - besides it is up to the reader to interpret. I view this thread in more general terms.
When the title states, "boat people pour in" this infers a negative connotation because it is sensationalising something which, when put into context and properly benchmarked, is inaccurate.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:51 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
In the four years 2002-2003, 2003-2004, 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 Australia received a total of 143 Boat people, or an average of 37 per year.
In 2008-2009 it was 1,033 boat people arrivals for the year (about 3 per day)
In the first 11 days of 2009-2010 it was 73. (about 6 per day)
In 2008-2009 it was 1,033 boat people arrivals for the year (about 3 per day)
In the first 11 days of 2009-2010 it was 73. (about 6 per day)
Mar 30th 2010, 5:16 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
You might say this lot of 4,000 is'nt many but so far they have cost the taxpayers $350 million that could have been spent on hospitals which would have save peoples lives . If just say half of these boat people never work and live off benefits all their lives how many more millions is that, as many have no skills, education and poor English.
Mar 30th 2010, 6:06 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
you say 4000, but how many more are there to come? if the policy is not tough enough what's to say the amount will not increase and increase. will you change your mind where there is 100,000 ? or 1m ?
Mar 30th 2010, 6:17 am
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Mar 30th 2010, 8:35 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
Some say it is to make it easier for their legal teams to access them in preparation for their appeals against deportation.
Mar 30th 2010, 8:41 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
I used to work at Eurotunnel and witnessed first hand what these people were willing to risk to get into the UK. I remember one fella suffering horrific injuries when he jumped off a train. Much as people complain about them I won't ever forget the state of him and can't bring myself to despise them as some do.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with opening borders, but if one is going to brag about ones country, then one must expect those not so fortunate to want a piece.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with opening borders, but if one is going to brag about ones country, then one must expect those not so fortunate to want a piece.
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/blog/j...ralian-dream-0
Mar 30th 2010, 8:45 am
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Re: Boat people pour in.
Is Christmas Island less secure than Villawood ?
29 Mar 2010 ... The Immigration Department has confirmed that three more people escaped from Sydney's Villawood detention centre early this morning.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...29/2858846.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...29/2858846.htm
Mar 30th 2010, 1:20 pm
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Re: Boat people pour in.
No, he didn't - see earlier chart.
The number of people arriving is statistically insignificant - a drop in the ocean of people that leave and arrive in Australia every year.
This is complete nonsense. The vast majority of asylum seekers in Australia are investigated and genuine refugee status is established for more than 90%; the rest are deported.
The real question is why keep them on Christmas Island, where there is insufficient labour, land and facilities, with the result that "island processing" costs vastly more than it would do on the mainland. It was entirely a political stunt.
The number of people arriving is statistically insignificant - a drop in the ocean of people that leave and arrive in Australia every year.
The real question is why keep them on Christmas Island, where there is insufficient labour, land and facilities, with the result that "island processing" costs vastly more than it would do on the mainland. It was entirely a political stunt.