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Old Aug 20th 2018, 1:19 am
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Given the backpeddling and poor performance of Turnbull today, what do people think for his survival chance?
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Yes! Peter Dutton!

A real conservative hard man - just what the country needs
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Yes! Peter Dutton!

A real conservative hard man - just what the country needs
He's a sure thing to lose his seat at the next election though.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Yes! Peter Dutton!

A real conservative hard man - just what the country needs
Wait a minute. He's a Queenlander. Careful what you wish for.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Yes! Peter Dutton!

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No just what Australia doesn't need.
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Originally Posted by bcworld
He's a sure thing to lose his seat at the next election though.
I think they solve that by moving him to a safe seat before the election

Been done before
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Wait a minute. He's a Queenlander. Careful what you wish for.
Don't care where he's from

Australian's want a clear choice - and they are not getting that with Turnbull and Billy
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No just what Australia doesn't need.
Nope. Just what Australia needs
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Given the backpeddling and poor performance of Turnbull today, what do people think for his survival chance?
Probably middling to fair. There are few willing to put their hand up. The Lib's appear on the way out. Poor policy has won few admirers. Yet another party fracturing into groups as Australia continues to be suffering the reality of poor governance.
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Nope. Just what Australia needs
I'm afraid the days of your youth will never be retuned. Far Right politics is being uncovered for the farce it is. In the case of your 'hard man' Dutton, he will unlikely garner support from south of the border and I suspect a lot of people in the present government, would fear their chances of re election with such a hard core, which by the way, he would have a job maintain if in position of leadership.
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Don't care where he's from

Australian's want a clear choice - and they are not getting that with Turnbull and Billy
Be the destruction of the so called Liberal party. I doubt, even with the apathy around Aussies and politics that such a Right Wing, some suggest with border line Nazi tendencies would make top dog, even in Australia. He would require a substantial 'make over' in order to become more 'appealing' not 'appalling' to a far greater number of people. One thing playing 'hard man' in a functionary role quite another as PM.
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Probably middling to fair. There are few willing to put their hand up. The Lib's appear on the way out. Poor policy has won few admirers. Yet another party fracturing into groups as Australia continues to be suffering the reality of poor governance.
As far as I can see the only way Trunbull survives, absent his spine, is because they have no sane alternative that would want the job. Dutton would be great; he would lose them the election by an even greater margin - if Shorten lacks charisma he at least doesn't give off the 'child snatcher' vibe of spudface. Abbott sees himself doing a Rudd, but everyone else thinks he's a useless, spent, weirdo. Bishop has been keeping her head down, and the libs don't have the greatest 'equal opportunities' record. Morrison is the only chance, but I don't see him being dumb enough to stick his head above the parapet when failure and loss is beckoning within the year.

Thing is, as time ticks on, the MPs who's seats look dodgy will try anything for a hail-mary pass.

The Libs can't go into the next election with "jobsngrown" when they have so failed to deliver. If they try to lead on "anti-immigrant" then the immigrant vote will crucify them. They are a party in need a policy that all of them can agree with - and even giving their mates the miners taxpayer money is being shown to be hollow.

They need a 'Jim Hacker' - someone with no faction, someone with no policy, and someone with no clue he's just there to take the fall.
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As far as I can see the only way Trunbull survives, absent his spine, is because they have no sane alternative that would want the job. Dutton would be great; he would lose them the election by an even greater margin - if Shorten lacks charisma he at least doesn't give off the 'child snatcher' vibe of spudface. Abbott sees himself doing a Rudd, but everyone else thinks he's a useless, spent, weirdo. Bishop has been keeping her head down, and the libs don't have the greatest 'equal opportunities' record. Morrison is the only chance, but I don't see him being dumb enough to stick his head above the parapet when failure and loss is beckoning within the year.

Thing is, as time ticks on, the MPs who's seats look dodgy will try anything for a hail-mary pass.

The Libs can't go into the next election with "jobsngrown" when they have so failed to deliver. If they try to lead on "anti-immigrant" then the immigrant vote will crucify them. They are a party in need a policy that all of them can agree with - and even giving their mates the miners taxpayer money is being shown to be hollow.

They need a 'Jim Hacker' - someone with no faction, someone with no policy, and someone with no clue he's just there to take the fall.
A pretty much on the money assessment from where I'm standing. Besides every chance a very rocky road ahead. It will be taxing for whom ever is in power. Australia has largely 'wasted ' its boom rewards with too little to show and no clear direction forwards. All such a shame.
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Oh dear. It now looks like spudface dutton has got question marks over his eligibility to stand because of his financial interest in his wife's childcare business that gets government money. MPs have been thrown out for similar before.

I wonder who leaked that?

This is looking more and more like big ears making a play.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Don't care where he's from

Australian's want a clear choice - and they are not getting that with Turnbull and Billy
You are in a rare minority. The rest of Australia doesn't want a right wing Queenslander and that would be shown at the next election.

With Turnbull and the full backing of the party they would take BS + Clowns to the cleaners. The record already speaks for itself. Might be time for a party split.

Australia can have BS + Clowns at the far left chirping away with old news. Turnbull in the middle and Dutton & Tone at the right bringing a bit of realism to the situation.
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