Blood tests will no longer be covered by medicare.
#31
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I found trying to get a bulk-billing doctor's appointment just like trying to get on the list of an NHS Dentist in the UK, i.e. not easy and no-one really wants to help you. The dentist costs a small fortune, as do contraceptives which are totally free of charge in the UK. & I'm hoping to never require an ambulance here - if I need one and I'm conscious I'll be requesting a taxi!
In theory, with about an 80% bulk billing rate, they should be relatively easy to locate.
It is a pity that some things that are free in the UK, have to be paid for here.
But that could easily be fixed by increasing the Medicare Levy (1.5%) to a similar figure to the UK. Is it still 11% in the UK ?
Ambulance cover is generally less than about $100 per year in the States that need it.
In NSW it is $47.30 for a single person and $94.60 for a family.
GP Bulk Billing:
24 Jun 2003 ... Only 68 per cent of doctors now bulk bill (NSW Government source)
10 Feb 2006 ... The national GP bulk-billing rate increased to 75.1 per cent (Government Source)
November 10, 2007 ... the rate of bulk billing by GPs, has dipped by 0.2 per cent of services to 78 per cent nationally. (Newspaper source)
#32
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Originally Posted by fish.01
Originally Posted by fish.01
Not quite sure what you mean here....most free things on the NHS are free here....obvious exceptions are dental and prescriptions are dearer here but in the large scheme of things it is trying to be a free system. The big difference is that there is also a large amount of private use here as well. But if you want to use the public system you can just like the NHS? A lot of new people confuse all the private options thinking it is the public system - just because medicare chips in with the private system as well. If you want free ask your doctor to refer you as a public patient.
Sure you get charged a bit more tax if you have a good income and haven't taken out private insurance, but you still don't have to take out the insurance or if you do you don't have to use it.
Blood tests are still free though the public system....private path labs may start charging a gap but if you have are a regular visitor you can still get bulk billed.
Not quite sure what you mean here....most free things on the NHS are free here....obvious exceptions are dental and prescriptions are dearer here but in the large scheme of things it is trying to be a free system. The big difference is that there is also a large amount of private use here as well. But if you want to use the public system you can just like the NHS? A lot of new people confuse all the private options thinking it is the public system - just because medicare chips in with the private system as well. If you want free ask your doctor to refer you as a public patient.
Sure you get charged a bit more tax if you have a good income and haven't taken out private insurance, but you still don't have to take out the insurance or if you do you don't have to use it.
Blood tests are still free though the public system....private path labs may start charging a gap but if you have are a regular visitor you can still get bulk billed.
I found trying to get a bulk-billing doctor's appointment just like trying to get on the list of an NHS Dentist in the UK, i.e. not easy and no-one really wants to help you. The dentist costs a small fortune, as do contraceptives which are totally free of charge in the UK. & I'm hoping to never require an ambulance here - if I need one and I'm conscious I'll be requesting a taxi!
Almost 85% of GP visits in NSW are free so no need to be in the 15% minority unless you live in a small town.
Everyone in Qld has ambulance cover - so I refuse to accept that having to pay for condoms means medicare is no longer a public health system
#33
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Whilst I understand not having private health cover, everyone should have ambo cover. For a relatively small amount of money, it's a lifesaver, literally.
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Well it's not really a literal lifesaver, as they will still take me to the hospital, I'll just have a bill afterwards. Which is my choice, as with all insurances.
& ref the Drs being free, does that actually mean that they bulkbill or that you can claim the cost (or most of it) back? When I did the rounds of local doctors upon arrival, I eventually found ONE that bulkbilled, which was on the university campus. Not saying this is the case everywhere, but it is certainly a more difficult system to work out than what we're used to in the UK where there's no money changing hands when you go to see the GP.
& ref the Drs being free, does that actually mean that they bulkbill or that you can claim the cost (or most of it) back? When I did the rounds of local doctors upon arrival, I eventually found ONE that bulkbilled, which was on the university campus. Not saying this is the case everywhere, but it is certainly a more difficult system to work out than what we're used to in the UK where there's no money changing hands when you go to see the GP.
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- Chronically ill people who are being managed by their GP under an Enhanced Primary Care plan are able to claim Medicare rebates for dental services.
- Teenagers are entitled to $153.45 (2009) worth of Dental work per year under Medicare.
- Dental services carried out in Dental Hospitals for Health Card Holders is also free.
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A lot of things are different here in Australia, and it takes a while to get used to the changes.
#38
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Of course it takes time to get used to changes - that doesn't mean that all the changes are good! Think everyone's entitled to their opinion, and not liking something doesn't mean that you just need more time to get used to it.
#39
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I can see this ending in the near future. The NHS cannot continue as it is as it is costing too much. Either services will have to be cut, taxes will have to rise or some charging will have to be introduced - especially considering the financial mess the UK government is in.
#40
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I can see this ending in the near future. The NHS cannot continue as it is as it is costing too much. Either services will have to be cut, taxes will have to rise or some charging will have to be introduced - especially considering the financial mess the UK government is in.
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You're right, it doesn't mean all changes are good. There are obviously some things in the NHS that are better - they certainly are simpler. Conversely sometimes when people are confronted by change they are not used to they assume it is worse - I'm sure you understand this, just saying it as a general comment as we see a lot of incorrect assumptions about medicare on here as everybody is trying to work it all out and it is complicated.
Last edited by fish.01; Jul 22nd 2009 at 1:35 pm.
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My experience when I first moved out here, was that I was always complaining about things not being the same as the UK. That caused me to eventually return to the UK.
Obviously people are entitled to stay annoyed with things if they prefer, but if people really want to try to settle into a new country, they do need to try to adapt to the ways of that new country, and just accept the differences.
That is basically what I did on my return to Australia. It seems that I just needed a bit of time to get used to it.. and stop comparing.
But if people really prefer to stay annoyed with things because they are not done the "British" way, then by all means, that is perfectly OK too. But don't then complain when the "Whinging Pom" tag gets used. We can't have things both ways... Athough, being British, we would prefer that
#43
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Mr PP was in a near fatal car crash on Saturday night, he had to be cut from the vehicle and I am expecting the ambo bill soon which I will take to Medibank.
We dont have full private cover as we are below the salary threshhold and at this moment in our lives would not be able to afford the gap which as he is in HDU and has been all week, the gap would have been enormous.
Please guys, get ambo cover, do not go on the 'we will be alright' kind of thoughts. Accidents happen in the blink of an eye and your lives are changed forever, so do not take the chance - its not much and its essential.
I have been seriously impressed with the level of care he has received, and if he recovers from this, paying for his weekly blood tests he is going to need is going to be a small price.
I now realise that you cannot have everything for free but if you get at least the lifesaving stuff and emergency care, then that suits me.
Get your ambulance cover, you never know what is around the corner.
#44
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Wise words moneypenny, I cannot understand anyone that does not have ambo cover.
Mr PP was in a near fatal car crash on Saturday night, he had to be cut from the vehicle and I am expecting the ambo bill soon which I will take to Medibank.
We dont have full private cover as we are below the salary threshhold and at this moment in our lives would not be able to afford the gap which as he is in HDU and has been all week, the gap would have been enormous.
Please guys, get ambo cover, do not go on the 'we will be alright' kind of thoughts. Accidents happen in the blink of an eye and your lives are changed forever, so do not take the chance - its not much and its essential.
I have been seriously impressed with the level of care he has received, and if he recovers from this, paying for his weekly blood tests he is going to need is going to be a small price.
I now realise that you cannot have everything for free but if you get at least the lifesaving stuff and emergency care, then that suits me.
Get your ambulance cover, you never know what is around the corner.
Mr PP was in a near fatal car crash on Saturday night, he had to be cut from the vehicle and I am expecting the ambo bill soon which I will take to Medibank.
We dont have full private cover as we are below the salary threshhold and at this moment in our lives would not be able to afford the gap which as he is in HDU and has been all week, the gap would have been enormous.
Please guys, get ambo cover, do not go on the 'we will be alright' kind of thoughts. Accidents happen in the blink of an eye and your lives are changed forever, so do not take the chance - its not much and its essential.
I have been seriously impressed with the level of care he has received, and if he recovers from this, paying for his weekly blood tests he is going to need is going to be a small price.
I now realise that you cannot have everything for free but if you get at least the lifesaving stuff and emergency care, then that suits me.
Get your ambulance cover, you never know what is around the corner.
#45
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Really sorry to hear that Sam, please wish Mr PP a speedy recovery. Absolutely agree everyone should have ambulance cover. My doctor always writes 'please bulk bill' on my blood test requests so I'm guessing nothing is going to change. Sorry just read through the thread quickly and this post stood out
I have ambo cover but never thought I would need to use it, it was my little 'just in case' policy.
Well I was proven wrong in all cases and this is the hardest thing I have ever gone through and having a large ambo bill is something at least I dont need to consider.
I am off up the hospital shortly and will pass on your message.