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lapin_windstar Apr 8th 2010 1:39 am

Re: Bag searches
 
Your standards are too high, milady. Bogan stores are Bi-Lo, Go-Lo, Supercheap Auto and Dan Murphy's. Coles and Woolies are just supermarkets. K-Mart - well, I'll give you that one. Also had it in Harvey Norman - "Home of Polyester".

Originally Posted by xzibit (Post 8481419)
Can you get in trouble if they ask you, and you run away?

The bag check is a condition of the licence (permission) to enter the property. The worst they can do is tell you to leave and not come back.

kporte Apr 8th 2010 1:44 am

Re: Bag searches
 

Originally Posted by lapin_windstar (Post 8481462)
Your standards are too high, milady. Bogan stores are Bi-Lo, Go-Lo, Supercheap Auto and Dan Murphy's. Coles and Woolies are just supermarkets. K-Mart - well, I'll give you that one. Also had it in Harvey Norman - "Home of Polyester".

The bag check is a condition of the licence (permission) to enter the property. The worst they can do is tell you to leave and not come back.

Dan Murphy's? Kidding!! How many bogans are gonna buy a bottle of the Grange or Krug?:lol: You mean BWS surely?

Cheetah7 Apr 8th 2010 1:44 am

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I just open my bag before they ask and they glance in and that is that. But I am tempted to say that I have a huge amount of chocolate stuffed down my panties and in my bottom and would they like to search me? Or I could yell 'I am not consenting to that unless you use gloves and lube!' and then sob loudly to alert other shoppers to a possible invasion of bum.

lapin_windstar Apr 8th 2010 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8481471)
Dan Murphy's? Kidding!!

It's an alcohol warehouse. The gentry don't shop for alcohol, they have it sent to them in packed wood crates.

Margaret3 Apr 8th 2010 3:04 am

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i couldnt care less, the poor bugger on the door is just doing as asked i always open my bag and have a pleasant conversation, if i wanna make a deal of it i'll write to the management:)

Kapri Apr 8th 2010 4:32 am

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I was stunned when I was on hols in Aus and got asked to show my bag. At that point I hadn't realised it was common practice.

I think it will always be difficult for Brits as we associate it with being seen as criminals.
To the Aussies it's just part of life - the same as we don't think twice about being on candid camera here in the UK every time we enter a shop.

jad n rich Apr 8th 2010 8:54 am

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Originally Posted by Pomster (Post 8480748)
Yes I know it has been done before but....

explain the logic in this.

I leave Big W, show them my bag.
Woman demands I show her my handbag as "it is A4 size". So if my handbag is smaller than A4 I am unlikely to be a thief, if it is bigger than A4, profiling shows I am 65pct more likely to be nicking stuff?

I had heard that razors are one of the most stolen items. If I was so inclined, I could stash several in my smaller handbag.

Next time they want to see my handbag I will tip the contents on the floor for them to rummage through- hopefully with my toilet training daughter's damp clothes in situ.....


I dont know why they continue to do it. Obvious your bags going to be checked, if your a thief you hide it somewhere else, hardly going to be in the bag is it.

I got told by a kmart staff girl most of the clothes are pinched via the changing room, go in take off your jeans/bra/shoes etc pop on a new one, old one goes back on the rack:eek: Teens carry big drink cartons with lids, all the small stuff goes in the drink container, when son did he supermarket high school job, said the fatties would just hide it on their person:eek:, kids would just get fed what they wanted before they left.

Bag searching does annoy me now, as its obviously pretty stupid if the stores already know all the other methods.

Theres a priceline up here that the woman waits till you have left the shop then yells out ( your now mid shopping centre) can I check your bags!!, it looks like your being arrested! as its not a at the till type search:frown: They did it to me once, I insisted as they had waited till I had left the shop, they call the police to search me and my bags which they declined:rolleyes:

kporte Apr 8th 2010 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by lapin_windstar (Post 8481579)
It's an alcohol warehouse. The gentry don't shop for alcohol, they have it sent to them in packed wood crates.

ah so it's bogan or gentry, nothing in between?:confused: I'm no bogan and I use Dan's, simply because its wine selection is second to none and the price is right. There are some terrible snobs on here!:lol:

BadgeIsBack Apr 8th 2010 9:05 am

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Originally Posted by xzibit (Post 8481419)
Can you get in trouble if they ask you, and you run away?? I can see some fun times to be had in the near future if not. Never had it happen to me yet though.

I suspect that they are told not to engage and pursue. Elfin safety and all the rest of it.

If they do, they are probably (male) have a go heroes who fancy a bit of action on a bored shift. Let probability work for you and leave them clutching at thin air..you will have the benefit of surprise to get that acceleration in from a standing start..

Never seen the practise at supermarkets.

Deancm Apr 8th 2010 11:15 am

Re: Bag searches
 

Originally Posted by Pomster (Post 8480748)
Yes I know it has been done before but....

explain the logic in this.

I leave Big W, show them my bag.
Woman demands I show her my handbag as "it is A4 size". So if my handbag is smaller than A4 I am unlikely to be a thief, if it is bigger than A4, profiling shows I am 65pct more likely to be nicking stuff?

I had heard that razors are one of the most stolen items. If I was so inclined, I could stash several in my smaller handbag.

Next time they want to see my handbag I will tip the contents on the floor for them to rummage through- hopefully with my toilet training daughter's damp clothes in situ.....

Shops don't have any search powers like the Police and while they may request to search your bag, you can tell them to p!ss off. The signs aren't worth the paper they are written on.

When someone in a shop asks to search your bag respond with "Do you have a search warrant?".

Deancm Apr 8th 2010 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by fallen angel (Post 8481219)
'but but but it was a condition of entry that you let me look.....'

No such thing. That's a bluff to prey on peoples ignorance


I guess it must be so ingrained that they actually think it is obligatory
The word "sheep" comes to mind.

Deancm Apr 8th 2010 11:24 am

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Originally Posted by lapin_windstar (Post 8481462)
The bag check is a condition of the licence (permission) to enter the property. The worst they can do is tell you to leave and not come back.

No it's not. Legally, in order to search a bag they need a search warrant. They can't get one because they are not the Police so they rely on signs like "condition of entry" to bluff the public to consent to a search.

mohogony Apr 8th 2010 12:04 pm

Re: Bag searches
 
It seems unfair to take it out on the person that searchers your bag, l doubt any of them would want to do it, they have to do what the boss tells them to do, blame the company management.
l think l read somewhere if you say no theres nothing they can do and will let you go, is that correct?

lapin_windstar Apr 8th 2010 12:46 pm

Re: Bag searches
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8482860)
No it's not. Legally, in order to search a bag they need a search warrant. They can't get one because they are not the Police so they rely on signs like "condition of entry" to bluff the public to consent to a search.

Dean - sorry, you're wrong. The check is a condition of entry, and it is nothing to do with search warrants or police powers.


Bag searches
If a store clearly displays a sign before you enter asking you to display the contents of your shopping bag, you accept the conditions of entry into the store; but you do not have to agree to show the contents of your bag.

If however when asked, you say no:

* you can be asked to leave
* the proprietor can refuse to sell you any goods, or
* the police could be called if the proprietor believes you have committed an offence.
http://consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256EB50...ibilities~&3=~

NB also tangentially that it's not only police officers that can get authority from the court to search property, private parties also can in some cases - but that has nothing to do with bag checks.

Deancm Apr 8th 2010 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8482939)
l think l read somewhere if you say no theres nothing they can do and will let you go, is that correct?

Yes.


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