Australian women in the workplace ....
#32
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Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Your right it is my problem. But, I have no plans to change anytime soon I like who I am, reached over 40 without climbing up or over anyone else.
What I do think i that it's time for a change. Can't be arsed to sooth egos of women who feel the need to prove themselves as capable. So over it.
Anyway, onwards and upwards I shall not be beaten
What I do think i that it's time for a change. Can't be arsed to sooth egos of women who feel the need to prove themselves as capable. So over it.
Anyway, onwards and upwards I shall not be beaten
#33
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
First result from search on google images for the term 'mingers who work in governemnt offices' . . .
http://www.thai-list.com/main-topics/mingers.jpg
Is this the sort of thing you're referring to? I can't see any tats, she's wearing a long-sleeved polo shirt.
http://www.thai-list.com/main-topics/mingers.jpg
Is this the sort of thing you're referring to? I can't see any tats, she's wearing a long-sleeved polo shirt.
#34
Joined: Oct 2007
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Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Last place I worked in, the in the office woman was nice to my face, but was a best friend of my husband's ex.
I had mucho enjoyable time giving her completely rubbish information which I know she frantically texted to said ex.
One night she left her phone in the office and was so worried I'd find it in the morning that she drove all the way back to the office to pick it up.
The entire company politics were surreal and the culture was totally insecure with a culture of backstabbing.
The woman I worked with was overheard trying to have me sacked.... so someone told me.
When I left there, I was so happy to go. A lesson in how not to run a small business.
I guess if you let the culture bother you, then you'll get upset by it. You can either look for another job or play the game...
Needless to say I now have another job which is great. There's a manager been drafted in from a local town to cover someone's job for a week, who is racist (Bunch of Asian tourists walk in yesterday and she says 'I can smell Asian titty' .... euhhhhhh!), talks like a yob and tells us all about her vibrator adventures. Someone made her a manager... god knows who or why. But there we go.. She thinks she's pregnant. Boyfriend looks like a 300lb gorilla. But she leaves on Monday. And then we can all get on with the job again.
All jobs have their down sides. Play the game, or look for another job where the organisation is good and the management structure is healthy. People tend to adopt the culture of the place just to get on, sadly. So if there is bullying, people will join in. If the structure is healthy, the workplace will be healthy. Lots of studies done on this if you care to look.
Took me a while to find a healthy place, esp in this small town, but seem to have nailed it finally. Good luck!
I had mucho enjoyable time giving her completely rubbish information which I know she frantically texted to said ex.
One night she left her phone in the office and was so worried I'd find it in the morning that she drove all the way back to the office to pick it up.
The entire company politics were surreal and the culture was totally insecure with a culture of backstabbing.
The woman I worked with was overheard trying to have me sacked.... so someone told me.
When I left there, I was so happy to go. A lesson in how not to run a small business.
I guess if you let the culture bother you, then you'll get upset by it. You can either look for another job or play the game...
Needless to say I now have another job which is great. There's a manager been drafted in from a local town to cover someone's job for a week, who is racist (Bunch of Asian tourists walk in yesterday and she says 'I can smell Asian titty' .... euhhhhhh!), talks like a yob and tells us all about her vibrator adventures. Someone made her a manager... god knows who or why. But there we go.. She thinks she's pregnant. Boyfriend looks like a 300lb gorilla. But she leaves on Monday. And then we can all get on with the job again.
All jobs have their down sides. Play the game, or look for another job where the organisation is good and the management structure is healthy. People tend to adopt the culture of the place just to get on, sadly. So if there is bullying, people will join in. If the structure is healthy, the workplace will be healthy. Lots of studies done on this if you care to look.
Took me a while to find a healthy place, esp in this small town, but seem to have nailed it finally. Good luck!
Last edited by TiddlyPom; Sep 30th 2011 at 1:53 am.
#35
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
I don't know if it is just me but ..... the Australian women seem very insecure. Worked in several office jobs now and I seem to have a problems with some of the women. Their isn't any team spirit.
They will think it's nothing to climb all over you to get the managers attention and be their pets. I am not one to climb up anyones arse but I'm friendly, helpful and a general all rounder.
I'm starting to wonder if it's me with the problem
They will think it's nothing to climb all over you to get the managers attention and be their pets. I am not one to climb up anyones arse but I'm friendly, helpful and a general all rounder.
I'm starting to wonder if it's me with the problem
I tried to get one to climb all over me but to no avail, arses were not involved.
It resulted in a rather messy disciplinary matter.
On topic ... I can't say I've noticed any bitchiness but the OH regularly reports of issues from the public service Front Line. Maybe women just notice these things and are bothered by them more than men?
#36
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Agression in many workplaces here in Brissie is seen as a desirable managment quality - Not just for women but for blokes as well. I'm so bored of being around insecure inexperienced alpha types who can't do their jobs properly but have been placed in position by some plonker who thinks they demonstrate leadership ability. I don't get it, as I'm a big fan of collaboration and mutual respect, but I get the impression I'm in the minority. It sucks, but the workplace here seems stuck in the 1980's in terms of management values, attitudes to co-workers, bullying etc. Guess we just need to dust off the shoulder pads and tough it out if we want to work here.
#37
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Been here for 15 months now. Not noticed any unusual workplace behaviours of either male or female Australians. My colleagues seem like a normal mix of people to me.
Just thought I would add that for balance, in case any newbies are getting scared.
Just thought I would add that for balance, in case any newbies are getting scared.
#38
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
All depends how much emotional intelligence you have, how much experience you have working in *healthy* workplace environment and and who you are and what your normal behaviours are.
Different experiences develop different expectations I guess.....
Different experiences develop different expectations I guess.....
#39
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Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Balance? Balance??? You sure you're on the right forum?
#41
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
I'm in the same field and this is the ONLY industry I have seen any resemblance of good work culture over here. Worked in many industries before and they're woeful. I put it down to Engineers /construction workers working all over the world and so they have *imported* those skills that involve best practise experience
#42
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Because it reads like you are suggesting that I think the behaviours described in this thread are normal. Whereas in fact I think my meaning was perfectly clear in saying that not everybody who has moved to Australia experiences things like this. I can honestly say slapping someone around the head (for example) would result in immediate dismissal anywhere where I have worked, including Sydney.
#43
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Too much to discuss and too little time -I've got a life
#44
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
Slapping someone around the head is NOT what I am talking about. That example is a tad too simplistic and far more explicit that what I (and others) are talking about on here. I'm talking about organisational behaviour much more subtle than this, maybe you should look it up as it's a very complex subject and one I can't be arsed going into.
Too much to discuss and too little time -I've got a life
Too much to discuss and too little time -I've got a life
#45
Re: Australian women in the workplace ....
I've learned to not take smart arse comments to heart and shaft them the same way. Anything less is unAustralian (some irony in that!)
Besides, anyone who can use a computer can look up organisational behaviours - but to be fair unless you've experienced it in the *real world* it makes no sense, you don't get it or what makes people tick in work and how they can behave if not managed internally from top down. It's like saying racism don't exist .......and you're white
Having a feisty and daft day today
Besides, anyone who can use a computer can look up organisational behaviours - but to be fair unless you've experienced it in the *real world* it makes no sense, you don't get it or what makes people tick in work and how they can behave if not managed internally from top down. It's like saying racism don't exist .......and you're white
Having a feisty and daft day today
Last edited by sonlymewalter; Oct 3rd 2011 at 2:06 am.