Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
How can you say that? There is no class distinction in Straya mate The whole idea of class distinction here is so outdated its not funny. Most people we know are just ordinary working people, if that makes them working 'class' then fair enough, exactly the same as our friends in Australia. Some people need to drag themselves into this century.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
Sorry, I think you have been away from UK for to long, you would be very surprised what sort of person will live in say Hackney E.8 and SW.19 nowadays ... the post code I came from had no reflection on how I spoke, i lived in East and was never connected with a londoner accent!
Del Boy saying he never shopped at 'Arrods and a posh lady replying obviously!
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
Of course, different socio economic groups exist in all countries. Its all this talk of 19th century class nonsense that gets me. Believe me I am living here.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
Well, having taken time out to check out the word "dimporphic"...!
Earlier this month (July) I blogged my memories of my early days in England with a broad "cobber" accent, struggling to be understood. ("English, as she is spoke") And a bit before that, of some of the slang terms of my childhood ("A cupful of cold water"). I think it's the slang that blocks understanding even more than the accent, most times, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Now I am old and English and easily understood by most of the people I converse with, with a neutral accent and virtually no slang. I have granddaughters (aged 12 and 9) who can't speak English at all fluently, so I damn well have to talk proper! That can be a bugger.
Earlier this month (July) I blogged my memories of my early days in England with a broad "cobber" accent, struggling to be understood. ("English, as she is spoke") And a bit before that, of some of the slang terms of my childhood ("A cupful of cold water"). I think it's the slang that blocks understanding even more than the accent, most times, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Now I am old and English and easily understood by most of the people I converse with, with a neutral accent and virtually no slang. I have granddaughters (aged 12 and 9) who can't speak English at all fluently, so I damn well have to talk proper! That can be a bugger.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
Well, having taken time out to check out the word "dimporphic"...!
Earlier this month (July) I blogged my memories of my early days in England with a broad "cobber" accent, struggling to be understood. ("English, as she is spoke") And a bit before that, of some of the slang terms of my childhood ("A cupful of cold water"). I think it's the slang that blocks understanding even more than the accent, most times, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Now I am old and English and easily understood by most of the people I converse with, with a neutral accent and virtually no slang. I have granddaughters (aged 12 and 9) who can't speak English at all fluently, so I damn well have to talk proper! That can be a bugger.
Earlier this month (July) I blogged my memories of my early days in England with a broad "cobber" accent, struggling to be understood. ("English, as she is spoke") And a bit before that, of some of the slang terms of my childhood ("A cupful of cold water"). I think it's the slang that blocks understanding even more than the accent, most times, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
Now I am old and English and easily understood by most of the people I converse with, with a neutral accent and virtually no slang. I have granddaughters (aged 12 and 9) who can't speak English at all fluently, so I damn well have to talk proper! That can be a bugger.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
Ahh, del boy came from Sarf landan didnt he? lol .. a lot of the posher persons are living in Hackney etc, "up coming areas" when really they cant afford knightsbridge kensington etc so spill the bull about run down parts of london up and coming.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
oops, yes Dimorphic. Probably too much home brew at the time.
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
We got this Australian bloke at work, when he speaks he sounds like a twat. Can anyone explain this one?
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Re: Australian Sexually Dimporphic Accent
How can you say that? There is no class distinction in Straya mate The whole idea of class distinction here is so outdated its not funny. Most people we know are just ordinary working people, if that makes them working 'class' then fair enough, exactly the same as our friends in Australia. Some people need to drag themselves into this century.
Perhaps the Uk has more of a connection and observance
of traditional class structures....the aristocracy is a literal example. In new countries, people like to think that attainment is more meritocratic.
my answer is that 19c class and values are alive and kicking in both countries..
if you come from an established class and hold it's values you know that the values are still highly relevant, because they are passed down.
I concede that there is a culture in Australia that leads people to believe it is a more egalitarian nation, but 19c and 20c class exists.
Both countries have a new middle class who probably never come into contact with established classes, and they are probably fortunate!