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The Bloke Jan 21st 2007 7:52 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 4307986)
organisers would like to request that fans please leave their flags at home."
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Sounds like they've banned it to me.

phoenixinoz Jan 21st 2007 8:25 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 
The flag has been banned from this venue.

This is offensive to the good people out there who are proud to be Australian and wish to fly the Australian flag. Why assume the majority of flag wavers are going to be anti social when in fact it's usually the minority who cause all the problem?

Once again emotion means nonsense decision making.

Instead of managing the few, lets penalise the majority.

PC madness:rolleyes:

Luke I Amyofath Jan 21st 2007 8:37 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 
A countries flag is a national symbol of their country. If some immigrants in Australia get offended by seeing Ozzie flags being paraded perhaps they should bugger off to a country where their choice of flag is flown.

As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.

esperanza Jan 21st 2007 8:42 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by Luke I Amyofath (Post 4308255)
A countries flag is a national symbol of their country. If some immigrants in Australia get offended by seeing Ozzie flags being paraded perhaps they should bugger off to a country where their choice of flag is flown.

As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.

I don't think it's to do with immigrants being offended, rather that flag-waving has come to be associated with racist, violent lowlifes - to the extent that other people are now being asked to avoid carrying flags.

Pollyana Jan 21st 2007 8:53 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 4307766)
Ban the concert.

I'm tempted to agree with that one!!!

Luke I Amyofath Jan 21st 2007 9:34 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by esperanza (Post 4308276)
I don't think it's to do with immigrants being offended, rather that flag-waving has come to be associated with racist, violent lowlifes - to the extent that other people are now being asked to avoid carrying flags.


Its fine to have a culturaly diverse country but if you are a migrant living in Australia and enjoying life here shouldnt you have some pride in seeing the nations flag flying ?

If Australian's are told to not carry their own flag in their own country where are they supposed to wave it ? Only outside of Australia ?

jon and alex Jan 21st 2007 10:07 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 
Bit of an odd one really, isn't it?
I mean, how can the waving of a flag be aggressive in itself? Surely for such an act to become intimidatory it must be accompanied by some other actions/behaviour which is aggressive.
It seems to me that the organisers are going after the wrong end of the problem. Surely it makes more sense to target those likely to cause trouble and to come down hard on those that go on to cause trouble rather than banning an inanimate object??!!:confused:

Big Galah Jan 21st 2007 11:41 am

Re: The Australian Flag
 
But...

The problem, as I see it, is that the Australian flag still has a Union Jack in the corner.

This allows the racist element use it out of context - in that some of those with British or Irish ancestry believe themselves to be real Aussies, and those of different backgrounds somehow lesser or non-authentic. (Lets not get too complicated - way back when, the whole of Ireland was British).

This is similar to the BNP using the Union Jack in their slogans/literature, and so on.

When South Africa chaged its flag, it removed the Union Jack, the Orange Free State and the Transavaal mini-flags, as they were associated with its white European past. To become a forward-looking "rainbow nation", it adopted a flag that was more representative of the people who lived there right then. Which makes sense, though I'm still not sure about the aesthetics of the design, but anyhow...

I can't see these ridiculous situations going away until this country gets its act together, becomes a republic, appoints a president and gets a new flag.

Big.

BenandPam Jan 21st 2007 12:39 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 
It is simply a marketing excercise, and it has worked very well. The Big Day Out have had fantastic publicity out of this.

Geordie George Jan 21st 2007 12:48 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by BenandPam (Post 4309270)
It is simply a marketing excercise, and it has worked very well. The Big Day Out have had fantastic publicity out of this.

That was my first thought on seeing the news this morning, too!

Now there'll be lots of flag waving and lots of talk about how Aussies aren't going to be dicatated to (whether by the PC mob or anyone else). Pawns in a bigger game.

gedge Jan 21st 2007 12:57 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by Geordie George (Post 4309286)
Pawns in a bigger game.

prawns on a bigger barbie?

Geordie George Jan 21st 2007 1:12 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by gedge (Post 4309300)
prawns on a bigger barbie?

With garlic butter? <Drool>

gedge Jan 21st 2007 1:20 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by Geordie George (Post 4310566)
With garlic butter? <Drool>

we've forgotten what the issue was already

Geordie George Jan 21st 2007 1:21 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 

Originally Posted by gedge (Post 4310583)
we've forgotten what the issue was already

Today's news is tomorrow's chip-papers.

I must be hungry ...

Vash the Stampede Jan 21st 2007 3:13 pm

Re: The Australian Flag
 
Scrap flag condition or cancel BDO, says Govt.


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