Australia under labour......
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Australia under labour......
Australia has the lowest unemployment since 1930, a booming economy and all the debts inherited from labour mismanagement wiped out - the Liberals did a great job managing the economy so why did they lose?
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
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Re: Australia under labour......
Australia has the lowest unemployment since 1930, a booming economy and all the debts inherited from labour mismanagement wiped out - the Liberals did a great job managing the economy so why did they lose?
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Another good example of senior party interference, is in the Qld state seat of Brisbane Central where Grace Grace (real name, not a typo) was endorsed by the Premier rather than being endorsed by the local ALP branch members, much to their disgust.
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Re: Australia under labour......
Yes, it IS business that creates a country's wealth - and all a Government does is "manage" that wealth. I don't deny that, for the most part, Howard, Costello et al have done a reasonable job of managing the nation's finances, but if we look to the source of that wealth it's come from the boom states, ALL of which have Labor premiers. I have never understood the mentality that has credited the Federal Government with "sound economic management", when it's obvious that, left to their own devices and policies, they wouldn't have had the 'get up and go' to initiate any of the strategies which have won these huge overseas contracts on which the nation's - and the States' - wealth is based.
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Re: Australia under labour......
Australia has the lowest unemployment since 1930, a booming economy and all the debts inherited from labour mismanagement wiped out - the Liberals did a great job managing the economy so why did they lose?
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
You're naive if you think you can move to a democracy and never see politics change in your life time..
MOst unions I've been part of want harmony between businesses and employees... those same unions also want as many jobs for their members... they just don't want employees to becomes mere cannon fodder and exploited.
You might be a good employer... but I've seen many who are not and would take any chance they can get to fully exploit their staff and treat them as less than human. I know of cases where people have been brought to Oz and paid appallingly low wages and it is the Unions that stand up for them and fight for their rights... I've not seen a major business group yet throw a lot of money in to help this group of exploited workers in Oz.
It's balance that is required and the rogue elements on both sides need to be kept in check.
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Re: Australia under labour......
Australia has the lowest unemployment since 1930, a booming economy and all the debts inherited from labour mismanagement wiped out - the Liberals did a great job managing the economy so why did they lose?
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Like all elections it wasn't really fought on selling policies but rather exploiting fear, and the number 1 issue focussed on by labour was IR laws and specifically the Work Choices legislation.
As a small business owner I didn't change anything to the detriment of my employees under workchoices, I used the new system to create a better wage structure and more rewarding opportunities for my staff. Its extremely important to retain staff as they are the difference between companies, we look after our staff so don't need an antiquated award system to lock down rates etc. we pay above award. work Choices encouraged dialogue between employers and employees and many, many employees are benefitting under the new more flexible laws.
People need to remember that Govt's don't create jobs businesses do, Govt needs to create the correct environment to allow businesses to flourish. I don't think an adversarial Govt full of ex union officials is going to do anything but harm the current economic conditions with draconian laws from the bad old days of the 70's. Its not in a unions interest to have harmony between employers and employees as otherwise there is no need for their existence. They will therefore start to drive a wedge and create that us and them culture they need that ensures a 'healthy' union membership and plenty of fees to prop up their empires. This all spells bad news for our economy - I'm selling up.
Ah well at least it'll give you more time to relax on your Chez Lounge (sic).
You may find your income stream dries up though and you might have to find other ways of earning mega bucks between posts, maybe some sort of working from home could fill the void?
Cheers,
Matt
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Re: Australia under labour......
By selling up I mean my business, time to move on and do something else.
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Looks like you've been taking lessons in commitment in the face of adversity from Mr Costello.
Ah well at least it'll give you more time to relax on your Chez Lounge (sic).
You may find your income stream dries up though and you might have to find other ways of earning mega bucks between posts, maybe some sort of working from home could fill the void?
Cheers,
Matt
Ah well at least it'll give you more time to relax on your Chez Lounge (sic).
You may find your income stream dries up though and you might have to find other ways of earning mega bucks between posts, maybe some sort of working from home could fill the void?
Cheers,
Matt
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Re: Australia under labour......
Looks like you've been taking lessons in commitment in the face of adversity from Mr Costello.
Ah well at least it'll give you more time to relax on your Chez Lounge (sic).
You may find your income stream dries up though and you might have to find other ways of earning mega bucks between posts, maybe some sort of working from home could fill the void?
Cheers,
Matt
Ah well at least it'll give you more time to relax on your Chez Lounge (sic).
You may find your income stream dries up though and you might have to find other ways of earning mega bucks between posts, maybe some sort of working from home could fill the void?
Cheers,
Matt
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Re: Australia under labour......
It's a sad day for Australia.
I only hope the damage Rudd's staff inflict will be limited, and their time in office short.
I only hope the damage Rudd's staff inflict will be limited, and their time in office short.
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Thats interesting, quite a adverse reaction makes a change for the DM, its usually anything overseas is beyond freaking wonderful
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Excellent form, you could always cut some costs and grab a container full of that Chinese crap full of lead and drugs.
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Aye, he'd have to lose the attitude, the suit and develop a decent dope habit though
Maybe the Chez Lounge (sic) could be the ideal place to chill out, we'll have that.
If he don't like The Floyd and The Beta Band then he's buggered though.
Maybe the Chez Lounge (sic) could be the ideal place to chill out, we'll have that.
If he don't like The Floyd and The Beta Band then he's buggered though.