Arsonists - how would you punish them?
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Arsonists - how would you punish them?
I felt sick when I saw on the news just how bad the fire is tonight, they said it is head towards Port Kennedy. Cops reckon it was started on purpose
Now what kind of person does that? Puts the lives of the emergency services at risk and everyone living in the area not to mention the environmental impact.
Personally I would be happy to hear of those that start fires like this, were found burned to death, or perhaps have enough severe burns that they require care for the rest of their natural life, no matter how young or old - they know exactly what they are doing.
How would you punish them?
Now what kind of person does that? Puts the lives of the emergency services at risk and everyone living in the area not to mention the environmental impact.
Personally I would be happy to hear of those that start fires like this, were found burned to death, or perhaps have enough severe burns that they require care for the rest of their natural life, no matter how young or old - they know exactly what they are doing.
How would you punish them?
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Bushfire alert for Karnup, Baldivis, Golden Bay and Secret Harbour, City of Rockingham
and
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...5&postcount=39
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Lordy. That is a hard one. I don't think I'd like to see them severely burned so they need care because that is then a drain on government funding/benefits etc.
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
For info - anyone over that way
Bushfire alert for Karnup, Baldivis, Golden Bay and Secret Harbour, City of Rockingham
and
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...5&postcount=39
Bushfire alert for Karnup, Baldivis, Golden Bay and Secret Harbour, City of Rockingham
and
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...5&postcount=39
Do you remember last summer Polly, you sent me those links as we had a fire down our way and I in my ignorance said to you 'Oh its 7km away, we will be fine' and you told me 7km is nothing in terms of fires if the wind is in the wrong direction.
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Lordy. That is a hard one. I don't think I'd like to see them severely burned so they need care because that is then a drain on government funding/benefits etc.
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Those poor people.
Do you remember last summer Polly, you sent me those links as we had a fire down our way and I in my ignorance said to you 'Oh its 7km away, we will be fine' and you told me 7km is nothing in terms of fires if the wind is in the wrong direction.
Do you remember last summer Polly, you sent me those links as we had a fire down our way and I in my ignorance said to you 'Oh its 7km away, we will be fine' and you told me 7km is nothing in terms of fires if the wind is in the wrong direction.
This one sounds like its moving fast. Hope everyone over there is OK
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Lordy. That is a hard one. I don't think I'd like to see them severely burned so they need care because that is then a drain on government funding/benefits etc.
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
Prison obviously but I'd probably be childish and want someone to torch their place while they looked on.
I think I'd still have to have belief that the justice system will do its job properly.
Are there bad bushfires then?
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
I agree to a degree. Sadly there is no thing as justice but the system we have I believe is the best we have. I would gladly pay more tax for longer sentences which I think these people deserve (and for a whole heap of other crimes here where sentencing seems ridiculously light)
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When I first read your thread title it made me smile because arsonist doesn't sound like a word to describe someone who starts fires but rather, as Jonathan Ross once put it, a horticulturist who favours a gradient. On that basis I'd line them up against a wall and laugh at them, maybe for several hours.
Then I read the content of the thread and I'd have to change my vote to lethal injection, as they simply don't deserve the attention.
Then I read the content of the thread and I'd have to change my vote to lethal injection, as they simply don't deserve the attention.
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My hubby just suggested sending them down for as long as it takes for the area they burnt, to recover and if someone bulldozes it and builds on it, well tough!
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
I believe in equality for men/women/children and I firmly think that people that do this, know exactly what they are doing and do so for attention, excitement etc. Yet if they were asked if they would like to be in the middle of the fire that they have started, they would say no, if they were asked if someone could burn their house down while they were in it to see if they could escape in good time, then the answer would be no.
That tells me they know what they are doing and the worst thing is, I have a feeling that these attacks are only just starting, thus putting a drain on our already dangerously low water supplies.
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You see if its kids doing this then I would still happily see them burnt, I would happily pray for them to be caught in the very fire that they started with the emergency services unable to save them.I believe in equality for men/women/children and I firmly think that people that do this, know exactly what they are doing and do so for attention, excitement etc. Yet if they were asked if they would like to be in the middle of the fire that they have started, they would say no, if they were asked if someone could burn their house down while they were in it to see if they could escape in good time, then the answer would be no.
That tells me they know what they are doing and the worst thing is, I have a feeling that these attacks are only just starting, thus putting a drain on our already dangerously low water supplies.
That tells me they know what they are doing and the worst thing is, I have a feeling that these attacks are only just starting, thus putting a drain on our already dangerously low water supplies.
call me a bleeding heart liberal... but I'm thinking you're being a bit knee jerk reactionist there mate...
You may be talking about some one who is mentally ill... and surely the sick deserve our pity? Kids do things that are stupid... mostly with no real idea of the consequences...
During the heatwave in the uk of ?76 (or was it 74? can't remember).... I set fire to our garden using guncaps and a piece of toilet roll... I had NO IDEA that it would work... or that it would get out of control... or that our neighbours would loose their sheds... Luckily I lived in a country where an idiotic childish prank didn't cost lives... otherwise I'd have people beying for my blood also..
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Re: Arsonists - how would you punish them?
Make them live in WA - punishment for the most heinous of crimes.
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call me a bleeding heart liberal... but I'm thinking you're being a bit knee jerk reactionist there mate...
You may be talking about some one who is mentally ill... and surely the sick deserve our pity? Kids do things that are stupid... mostly with no real idea of the consequences...
During the heatwave in the uk of ?76 (or was it 74? can't remember).... I set fire to our garden using guncaps and a piece of toilet roll... I had NO IDEA that it would work... or that it would get out of control... or that our neighbours would loose their sheds... Luckily I lived in a country where an idiotic childish prank didn't cost lives... otherwise I'd have people beying for my blood also..
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You may be talking about some one who is mentally ill... and surely the sick deserve our pity? Kids do things that are stupid... mostly with no real idea of the consequences...
During the heatwave in the uk of ?76 (or was it 74? can't remember).... I set fire to our garden using guncaps and a piece of toilet roll... I had NO IDEA that it would work... or that it would get out of control... or that our neighbours would loose their sheds... Luckily I lived in a country where an idiotic childish prank didn't cost lives... otherwise I'd have people beying for my blood also..
eds
xxx
And I guess in the event of people losing their lives, what should be done to punish them? But I will admit to not feeling sorry if the person that started the fire couldnt escape as quickly as they thought they could.
We came close to evacuating last year and I have never been so scared.
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Probably right there Eddie, it is a knee jerk reaction from me but you have to admit this Summer it seems particularly bad for firebugs and it makes me wonder why they are doing it, is it an organised group of people?
And I guess in the event of people losing their lives, what should be done to punish them? But I will admit to not feeling sorry if the person that started the fire couldnt escape as quickly as they thought they could.
We came close to evacuating last year and I have never been so scared.
And I guess in the event of people losing their lives, what should be done to punish them? But I will admit to not feeling sorry if the person that started the fire couldnt escape as quickly as they thought they could.
We came close to evacuating last year and I have never been so scared.