Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Australia > The Barbie
Reload this Page >

Apparent failure to vote notice

Apparent failure to vote notice

Thread Tools
 
Old Aug 23rd 2012, 10:36 pm
  #1  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Brisvegas
Posts: 460
Chortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of light
Default Apparent failure to vote notice

Hmmm... I have no excuse to avoid the $50 fine for not voting in a local election. To be honest, I didn't actually know it was happening (twas a relatively quiet affair...)

'No further action will be taken if you have an acceptable reason'

should I suck it up and pay more attention next time? Or can anyone come up with an excuse to get me off the hook?? I've ruled out death & serious illness...
Chortlepuss is offline  
Old Aug 23rd 2012, 10:41 pm
  #2  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
carolinephillips's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 7,580
carolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond reputecarolinephillips has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Were you out of the area at the time????
carolinephillips is offline  
Old Aug 23rd 2012, 11:01 pm
  #3  
snɐןɔ ʎʇıuɐs
 
GarryP's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,558
GarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by Chortlepuss
should I suck it up and pay more attention next time? Or can anyone come up with an excuse to get me off the hook??
depends how it works with your area, but you could tell them you sent in a postal vote.

General principle is to make it time consuming, hassle, and expense to say that you don't have a valid excuse - they are more likely to just drop it then. Either way, make it cost them more than $50 for the trouble
GarryP is offline  
Old Aug 23rd 2012, 11:07 pm
  #4  
Gutter Gob!!
 
northernbird's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 13,098
northernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond reputenorthernbird has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by Chortlepuss
Hmmm... I have no excuse to avoid the $50 fine for not voting in a local election. To be honest, I didn't actually know it was happening (twas a relatively quiet affair...)

'No further action will be taken if you have an acceptable reason'

should I suck it up and pay more attention next time? Or can anyone come up with an excuse to get me off the hook?? I've ruled out death & serious illness...
Did you not get something in the mail. In WA we get voting slips in the mail for local elections that we can post back rather than vote 'in person'.
northernbird is offline  
Old Aug 23rd 2012, 11:59 pm
  #5  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,300
Zen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by northernbird
Did you not get something in the mail. In WA we get voting slips in the mail for local elections that we can post back rather than vote 'in person'.
Yes - is it possible to simply say "I never knew"? Or do they invoke a sort of "ignorance is no excuse" rule? Being out of the area wouldn't work would it - would they not just say use postal vote?
Zen10 is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 12:11 am
  #6  
Proudly Deplorable
 
Amazulu's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2003
Location: Alloha snack bar
Posts: 24,246
Amazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond reputeAmazulu has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by northernbird
Did you not get something in the mail. In WA we get voting slips in the mail for local elections that we can post back rather than vote 'in person'.
My understanding is that it is not compulsory to vote in local elections?
Amazulu is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 12:20 am
  #7  
DownUnder
 
datamile's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2003
Location: Thorneside, Brissy
Posts: 1,709
datamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond reputedatamile has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Have to in qld

http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/voting.aspx?id=37

http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/voting.aspx?id=94
datamile is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 12:26 am
  #8  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,300
Zen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

I just read a thread where someone who claimed to have worked in a job assessing the reasons for not voting said any excuse will do, probably for the reason Garry has already mentioned - cost of recovery.

Voting is not compulsory in Australia, but attending a polling station and looking like you are voting is. I don't agree with compulsory voting, but turning up isn't that much of a hassle in the grand scheme of things.
Zen10 is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 2:07 am
  #9  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Brisvegas
Posts: 460
Chortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of lightChortlepuss is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Cheers for the replies. Even tho the ink was still wet from my citizenship ceremony certificate, i thought that the local ones weren't compulsory. I didn't get any information re: voting - but still no excuse as hubby popped in to vote on the off chance....basically I couldn't be @rsed and now I've been caught out

I think I'll send an elaborate letter asking them to explain in detail my obligations, say i travel a lot for work and ask if I could be considered for postal voting in the future due to my itinerant lifestyle
Chortlepuss is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 2:51 am
  #10  
(It's not my real name)
 
renth's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Ilukapool. WA
Posts: 12,467
renth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond reputerenth has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

I wonder what would happen if you refused to vote and refused to pay the fine?
renth is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 2:55 am
  #11  
snɐןɔ ʎʇıuɐs
 
GarryP's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,558
GarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond reputeGarryP has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by renth
I wonder what would happen if you refused to vote and refused to pay the fine?
Apparently they cancel your driving licence, etc.

I wouldn't mind the compulsory voting if you could vote "none of the above" and if that won the candidates were banned from standing for the next 5 years.
GarryP is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 3:08 am
  #12  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,300
Zen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by GarryP
Apparently they cancel your driving licence, etc.

I wouldn't mind the compulsory voting if you could vote "none of the above" and if that won the candidates were banned from standing for the next 5 years.
+1. Apparently there are an enormous number of spoiled ballot papers covered in all kinds of crap because of the % of people who just wouldn't vote anywhere else being forced to here. You don't have to tick a specific box. You could tick all of them, for example, and your vote is not counted.
Zen10 is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 3:11 am
  #13  
BE Forum Addict
 
bingobob777's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Not Brisbane
Posts: 1,210
bingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond reputebingobob777 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

How can a democracy force you to do something?

all politicians are tools, is there a none of the above option?
bingobob777 is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 3:14 am
  #14  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,300
Zen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by bingobob777
How can a democracy force you to do something?

all politicians are tools, is there a none of the above option?
It was started back in the 20s. Not sure why. According to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting

groovy map there are quite a few countries that have some degree of compulsory voting. Within Australia it gets more complicated again as different states have different laws deciding what elections have compulsory voting and so on.

Last edited by Zen10; Aug 24th 2012 at 3:19 am.
Zen10 is offline  
Old Aug 24th 2012, 3:38 am
  #15  
Home and Happy
 
Pollyana's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Keep true friends and puppets close, trust no-one else...
Posts: 93,815
Pollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Apparent failure to vote notice

Originally Posted by Zen10
It was started back in the 20s. Not sure why. According to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting

groovy map there are quite a few countries that have some degree of compulsory voting. Within Australia it gets more complicated again as different states have different laws deciding what elections have compulsory voting and so on.
I didn't vote in the local one so I'llprobably get a notice too - i was back home at the time which apparently is a good excuse
Pollyana is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.