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Bernieboy Apr 29th 2014 11:47 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 11240622)

I was misquoted. Bernie being there is better than never having been there: or, never having donned a uniform of service.

Really:blink:

paulry Apr 30th 2014 12:02 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBernie (Post 11240626)
Really:blink:

:confused:

Bernieboy Apr 30th 2014 4:51 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11240651)
:confused:

I don't think badgerboy has been in combat.

spouse of scouse Apr 30th 2014 5:20 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11233521)
Watched a bit of the parade in Perth this morning on TV - Aussie soldiers/sailors/airmen can't march for shit. Saying that, those Royal Navy dudes from HMS Tireless weren't much better

What the f**k did they learn in basics?

ffs, they're members of the armed forces, not a choreographed pantomime for your entertainment.

The things some people criticize :rolleyes:

Bernieboy Apr 30th 2014 5:23 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 11241104)
ffs, they're members of the armed forces, not a choreographed pantomime for your entertainment.

The things some people criticize :rolleyes:

Have you served then ??

spouse of scouse Apr 30th 2014 5:42 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 11241113)
Have you served then ??

I don't get your point?

Bernieboy Apr 30th 2014 9:32 am

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 11241134)
I don't get your point?

If you had served ya would have,end of.

Amazulu Apr 30th 2014 12:31 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 11241104)
ffs, they're members of the armed forces, not a choreographed pantomime for your entertainment.

The things some people criticize :rolleyes:

eh? :confused:

Do you know anything about military discipline and culture?

If you did you would know that good marching is a fundamental skill/task/function of a well training military unit. It shows good discipline, skill, pride, professionalism and training

On ANZAC day in Perth the marching from much of the Australian military was appalling - out of step and time, not lined up, some of them had big grins on their faces and some were even chewing gum

We pay a lot of money for these guys and should expect the best - and they should expect the best from themselves

You either get this or you don't

spouse of scouse Apr 30th 2014 2:06 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 
Bernie - Yes, I did know what your first comment meant - I was interested in how you would explain it. Not interested anymore.

Amazulu - nothing you've said is new to me.

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You know, commenting on the armed forces generally, or ANZAC day specifically, isn't reserved for people who've personally served in the army/navy/airforce.
ANZAC Day means a great deal to me, both as an Australian and in terms of my own family. You have the same right as everyone else to criticize, and you did. I have the same right as everyone else to respond, and I did. Anything more is just a stupid forum argument, and you can have that all to yourselves.

Amazulu Apr 30th 2014 5:12 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 11241739)
Bernie - Yes, I did know what your first comment meant - I was interested in how you would explain it. Not interested anymore.

Amazulu - nothing you've said is new to me.

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You know, commenting on the armed forces generally, or ANZAC day specifically, isn't reserved for people who've personally served in the army/navy/airforce.
ANZAC Day means a great deal to me, both as an Australian and in terms of my own family. You have the same right as everyone else to criticize, and you did. I have the same right as everyone else to respond, and I did. Anything more is just a stupid forum argument, and you can have that all to yourselves.

you're arguing with yourself

Bernieboy Apr 30th 2014 8:35 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11241674)
eh? :confused:

Do you know anything about military discipline and culture?

If you did you would know that good marching is a fundamental skill/task/function of a well training military unit. It shows good discipline, skill, pride, professionalism and training

On ANZAC day in Perth the marching from much of the Australian military was appalling - out of step and time, not lined up, some of them had big grins on their faces and some were even chewing gum

We pay a lot of money for these guys and should expect the best - and they should expect the best from themselves

You either get this or you don't

:thumbup:

spouse of scouse Apr 30th 2014 10:14 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 
I hate doing this, because I'm a stubborn old bitch. But I want to say I'm sorry for my comments. My uncle, who served in Vietnam, died the day before ANZAC Day. He wasn't that much older than me and we were really close. He came home so changed, so damaged. He wouldn't have a bar of the RSL or any commemoration services, he wanted to do the impossible, to forget.

Anyway, sorry for going off half-cocked.

Bernieboy Apr 30th 2014 10:56 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 11242058)
I hate doing this, because I'm a stubborn old bitch. But I want to say I'm sorry for my comments. My uncle, who served in Vietnam, died the day before ANZAC Day. He wasn't that much older than me and we were really close. He came home so changed, so damaged. He wouldn't have a bar of the RSL or any commemoration services, he wanted to do the impossible, to forget.

Anyway, sorry for going off half-cocked.

No offence taken,just keep the safety on next time eh:D

BadgeIsBack May 4th 2014 5:29 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 11242109)
No offence taken,just keep the safety on next time eh:D

My point was that to put on a uniform is better than to have done nothing at all. So even marching not very nicely is better than nothing.

Some of these Arabs can't march for toffee but they can still pull a trigger.

And yes, Commonwealth forces tend to march better than the soldiers of many other nations if you judge by the look of Commonwealth forces...

BadgeIsBack May 4th 2014 5:36 pm

Re: Anzac Day
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11241674)
eh? :confused:

Do you know anything about military discipline and culture?

If you did you would know that good marching is a fundamental skill/task/function of a well training military unit. It shows good discipline, skill, pride, professionalism and training

On ANZAC day in Perth the marching from much of the Australian military was appalling - out of step and time, not lined up, some of them had big grins on their faces and some were even chewing gum

We pay a lot of money for these guys and should expect the best - and they should expect the best from themselves

You either get this or you don't

This is how I see it. There are soldiers who will claim that marching is not the be all and end all - but when they go out all of a sudden they will care about it and they will meet the minimum standard.

So chewing gum and being out of step looks crap.

But not being able to clear a stoppage or carry a pack looks even worse!


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