BadgeIsBack

I didn't pick apart your opinion - that still stands. I chose to discuss what you had an opinion about and how I think it works here and in the UK which I think is commonly understood. Remember how I said people don't analyse enough? If a prospective migrant understands these things they are less likely to box themselves into corners - and also not see demons under the bed. That's my excuse..anyhow.. Lol.

Wol - the same applies to you. Your opinion still stands.

lastresort

I've been to lots of different expat sites for different countries. There's always a sizable contingent who hate the country and can't seem to wait to move back home. Nothing unusual here. Some people just aren't good at adjusting to new places.

BadgeIsBack

The point of the news story is that the people taking the call did not see it as serious and didn't join the dots - and it might have been not their fault. But I thought they were sloppy in a professional arena.

Amazulu

True, but there is also a contingent who hate the country and don't move back - which is the point I was trying to make with this thread.

BadgeIsBack

I did not prove your point, but I may have missed it - or chosen to take a particular tack alongside it- which is common currency on a discussion forum. Your last point is understood - and I agree with it. There are loads of things negative, yes, and many are worthy....!!

Cheetah7

I have had my fair share of moans about stuff I dont like here but I have learned that moaning about anything in life doesnt change it, it doesnt help and wont make a difference.

Learning to accept what you dont like, changing things where possible and getting on with stuff is the way to go. The more you moan, you just make the 'rot' spread and it helps noone, it really doesnt.

If you work with a group of people and one person continually moans, it eventually gets to the other members of that group. If one person in that group is cheerful, its amazing what effect that can have on others. Poor example I know but the old saying 'misery loves company' springs to mind.

You might not like where you live, but sometimes it is nice to try and see the good in things. Look at what you do have rather than what you dont, you might realise you are quite lucky.

Slagging off Australia won't make your situation any better, in fact you will just wind people up - after all, you dont like it when the UK is slated so why should it be any different when you do it?

Change what you can, accept what you cant and at least try and find something good about the rest.

BadgeIsBack

That is why in professional circles mate might be limited perhaps to a very cursory greeting or goodbye, or final thanks, if at all, (and maybe not), once a relationship has been understood, and not whilst talking terms. Mate can change context. When mate is code for 'I am screwing you' then of course it has nothing to do with friendship lol.

When I first did some consultancy with an old-fashioned older gent I never used mate - in this context - to imploy equality - he was the first to do so - and his emphasis on mate as a friend in this occasion came around the time a beer was offered fom his work fridge..but if a man had come to fix his AC he (or I) might have used it...such is the custom..

Grayling

Maybe that is why some people do it

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Speaking personally?

Grayling

iamthecreaturefromuranus

yeah, right.

Wendy

Just because I know that's your favourite smilie

Steve2009

What's the general feeling on the topic of the thread i.e. 'Anti-Australian' / 'Un-Australian' posts/posters? Should the forum set up Ministries of Truth, Love, Peace and Plenty to stomp out these aggressors and their dangerous thoughts?

BadgeIsBack

In general -

If people could actually debate it might be a start...if people could cut sensationalist comment in general and actually explain the issues when it counts and is needed the forum would be a better place - in general.I give the subject matter equal weight whether it is pro or anti-Australia. I am as happy to dissect and criticise the very fabric of what makes Australia tick, oh yes! and also understand the migrants that find themselves there - although it was not my aim to dissect Polly on this occasion- sorry mate!

Detail gives rise to informed conclusion - conclusion might help the more discerning migrant who does not always want to hear that for example, 'Aussies can't drive' - but what can be different or interesting here with regard to motoring, wrong or right...!

I suggested a year back or so that we do need referees because without this we will never get to the bottom of issues and leave baggage behind. Perhaps Grayling could really offload both barrels...

sonlymewalter