Originally Posted by Bix (Post 12394727)

Garry, you are overlooking the fact that Australian retailers are "world class".

As they are in all walks of life.

Well, that's what they tell themselves.

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395132)

Not the best understanding of the market. For instance, much of the reason Amazon tries not to make a profit is it will be taxed. Better to keep feeding the money to growing the business, or adjacent businesses. If you want to go out and spend $13.7bn on a grocery chain, you can get a loan to cover it, and set the payments against tax.

A lot of it seems to be wishful thinking, not borne out by the evidence in other countries. Realistically the story is told by a graph

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...online.jpg.jpg



I do wonder. At some point that might not be true - they have certainly not be backward in putting their name on devices.


Part of my wandering previous post is thinking on what replaces Amazon. And that line of thought was started by realising Amazon is a web company, and web is yesterday's news.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12395161)

kills costs every time,

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12395161)

providing the cost difference is minimal.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12395161)

Its also ok to say "I got it wrong" sometimes.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12394482)

I have done this with Bing Lee a lot lately on lots of expensive electronics and whitegoods. No problem. They will beat any online retailer to get your business.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12395204)

I did it with Clive Peeters back when they were a thing, about 7 years ago I think. They happily price matched a $800 camera with an online site out of Hong Kong.

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395180)

Ahem.



Go on, give it a go.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12395210)

Is that the best you have. A badly edited quote to suit your own agenda? Isn't that against the rules of BE?

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12395213)

No, not if he hasn't changed any of your words. Weird editing appears to be ok. :lol:

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12395213)

No, not if he hasn't changed any of your words. Weird editing appears to be ok. :lol:

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395230)

Just pointing out the illogic of saying that cost isn't an issue,

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395230)

and then immediately saying "provided they are the same price".

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395230)

If cost isn't a major factor, or the major factor, someone should be telling Jetstar, Ryanair, etc.

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12395250)

That's not what I said.

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395255)

I'm not sure you are even sure you understood what you were saying

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395255)

Now I never said that cost was the only factor (that was your invention) but I did say that it was the primary factor. It was you that tried to say that it was unimportant, and then screwed it up by having to admit that that was only the case .... if prices were the same.

Which basically admits that different prices overrides other factors most of the time. Which is what we already know from practical experience.

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 12395255)

As for Jetstar and Ryanair not prioritising cost over everything else ....

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PoliteUnfo...nu-max-1mb.gif

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 12395253)

Never heard a AU retailer say they are world-class..infact barely heard an Australian say it outside wanting good outcomes and quality...its a BE myth and people take it literally when it is said and seize on it unnecessarily... World class doesn't necessarily mean 'best in the world': it recognizes qualitive and comparative or competitive..

Beoz is right: price not an issue if it is similar.

Amazon have just blown their experience comparatively speaking..not impressed..but it shows that the model takes time to come up to speed..