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knockoff nige Nov 23rd 2014 10:04 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481898)
I did answer it (rich coming from chief question avoider - so who did you vote for again in the last election? - we still haven't had an answer to that). Its a good thing as I explained my only experience with a chaplain in school was positive. ...... and who are you to say whether I or my family used the school chaplain as a service or not? But its a small time issue.

As the article says the there's one social worker for 115 students. That's a bit of a wasted channel of resource. Better off helping the wider community or multi tasking in the school - perhaps a bit of teaching. A good tidy up of more wasted welfare.

Looks like you've just answered it there but you hadn't before. So you're saying its a waste of money. The high court agree with you but the government, as highlighted in that article as working it's way around the high court by removing the funding for schools who won't use a religious chaplain instead of a trained counsellor. So I'm guessing you disagree with this policy from this government but are more in favour of the previous governments policy of allowing the school to choose?

What's it got to do with you who I voted for? I've already explained that I'm unrepresentative in parliament.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2014 10:18 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481904)
What's it got to do with you who I voted for? I've already explained that I'm unrepresentative in parliament.

Still avoiding the welfare funding issues and still avoiding the questions.

So now that this government are proving to be doing a far better job than their predecessors or we, who all voted for them, still "idiots"? Come on you can do better than name calling.

Grayling Nov 23rd 2014 10:23 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481916)

So now that this government are proving to be doing a far better job than their predecessors .

:lol::rofl:
Priceless!......talk about self delusion:lol::rofl::rofl:

knockoff nige Nov 23rd 2014 10:28 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481916)
Still avoiding the welfare funding issues and still avoiding the questions.

So now that this government are proving to be doing a far better job than their predecessors or we, who all voted for them, still "idiots"? Come on you can do better than name calling.

Not avoiding any welfare issue. I asked you if you agree with this government funding these chaplains based purely on their religion. Can we get an answer to that?

Financially, how has this government done a better job? Surely we would see an improvement if thatwas the case? Yet, we're seeing faster spending but in different areas that don't focus on the average Australian's quality of life. If you approve of their current performance, I believe that's idiotic.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2014 10:37 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481921)
Not avoiding any welfare issue. I asked you if you agree with this government funding these chaplains based purely on their religion. Can we get an answer to that?

Financially, how has this government done a better job? Surely we would see an improvement if thatwas the case? Yet, we're seeing faster spending but in different areas that don't focus on the average Australian's quality of life. If you approve of their current performance, I believe that's idiotic.

Maybe they are toying with you on the chaplains :) They did that with the poorly presented but in detail, excellent budget. Though they did sprout the idea of messing with university funding which is not a good idea in my opinion but hey, there was lots of plans thrown on the table so not agreeing with one area is not a bad thing of the grand total.

I've already given you an answer on the chaplains. If you don't like the answer your problem, not mine.

Who did you vote for in the last election? Come on we can't take you seriously without an answer.

knockoff nige Nov 23rd 2014 10:47 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481927)
Maybe they are toying with you on the chaplains :) They did that with the poorly presented but in detail, excellent budget. Though they did sprout the idea of messing with university funding which is not a good idea in my opinion but hey, there was lots of plans thrown on the table so not agreeing with one area is not a bad thing of the grand total.

I've already given you an answer on the chaplains. If you don't like the answer your problem, not mine.

Who did you vote for in the last election? Come on we can't take you seriously without an answer.

Voting is anonymous for a reason.

You didn't answer my question and I believe I know why. You said what you had in school and believed it was a good service. What you can't do is say simply 'I disagree with what this government are doing' because for some very immature reason, you have picked your side and that is that.

Do you agree with direct action? And please, answer that question directly instead of just telling us how you disagreed with the previous government. You're allowed to think outside the box.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2014 10:54 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481934)
Voting is anonymous for a reason.

You didn't answer my question and I believe I know why. You said what you had in school and believed it was a good service. What you can't do is say simply 'I disagree with what this government are doing' because for some very immature reason, you have picked your side and that is that.

Do you agree with direct action? And please, answer that question directly instead of just telling us how you disagreed with the previous government. You're allowed to think outside the box.

Who did you vote for? I think it was Christine Milne :) :)

knockoff nige Nov 23rd 2014 11:09 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481942)
Who did you vote for? I think it was Christine Milne :) :)

Mate you're calling me a question dodger but you've failed to answer multiple questions on this page alone. You're clearly a blinkered LNP supporter who's perfectly fine with those clowns making the decisions for you.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2014 11:13 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481955)
Mate you're calling me a question dodger but you've failed to answer multiple questions on this page alone. You're clearly a blinkered LNP supporter who's perfectly fine with those clowns making the decisions for you.

I answered you first question and now have refused until your question dodging antics cease.

I'm happy to entertain you but you've got to give a little, rather than take all.

Over to you.

knockoff nige Nov 23rd 2014 11:16 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481956)
I answered you first question and now have refused until your question dodging antics cease.

I'm happy to entertain you but you've got to give a little, rather than take all.

Over to you.

If you're referring to who I voted for, you must be wondering who's side I'm on. I've explained, I don't have a side as I don't believe politics should be treated like football rivalry. I've stated this many times. I've also said I'm not represented in parliament which should tell you that my vote didn't go to an elected minister.

Now, let's have you're answers if you have any.

Beoz Nov 23rd 2014 11:27 am

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481960)
If you're referring to who I voted for, you must be wondering who's side I'm on. I've explained, I don't have a side as I don't believe politics should be treated like football rivalry. I've stated this many times. I've also said I'm not represented in parliament which should tell you that my vote didn't go to an elected minister.

Now, let's have you're answers if you have any.

Amen for that. Right the environment policy. OK so the carbon tax was a joke. In fact penalties are a joke full stop. All they do is line the coffers rather than providing incentives. Nukes should be considered.

GarryP Nov 23rd 2014 6:10 pm

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11481827)
Except, you miss the point again. This isn't an attack on school chaplains. I'm sure there's plenty of caring individuals who do this role. The government want schools to specifically use religious chaplains and won't offer any money for anything else. These people are not allowed to offer religious counselling though which means this is a complete waste of money for any side of politics.

Exactly.

There is only one reason to insist on a religious chaplain - you know they won't keep religion out of it, but are instead there to convert. To then go against the courts and force through funding increases specifically for religious chaplains - and cut CSIRO funding to a smaller amount at the same time.

There are few words that describe just how evil that is.


Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481927)
They did that with the poorly presented but in detail, excellent budget. Though they did sprout the idea of messing with university funding which is not a good idea in my opinion

It was a complete cockup of a budget. Not only was it ill thought out, not only did it give money to areas that didn't need it and take it from key areas of importance. It was also setup to funnel money to their doners.

As per usual, the only saving grace is their evil is only matched by their incompetence - and much of it couldn't go through.

Meanwhile their lack of support for jobs is creating a REAL black hole in the finances - and that incompetence is going to come back to bite.


Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481966)
Amen for that. Right the environment policy. OK so the carbon tax was a joke. In fact penalties are a joke full stop. All they do is line the coffers rather than providing incentives. Nukes should be considered.

Carbon tax was a right wing policy, one that abbott championed till he worked out he could flip flop and get Turnbull's job.

I've always preferred centrally imposed changes and limits (eg shut down brown coal now).

Amazulu Nov 23rd 2014 7:36 pm

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11481966)
Amen for that. Right the environment policy. OK so the carbon tax was a joke. In fact penalties are a joke full stop. All they do is line the coffers rather than providing incentives. Nukes should be considered.

Exactly

Anyone should be allowed to build any power system that will make money - as long as it is not subsidised by the consumer or taxpayer (as in roof top solar). The only exception to this should be nuclear given the massive construction costs and national security implications (but when up and running, nuclear is ultra-cheap to run)

Wind power is a ridiculous idea given the massive subsidies it requires and its inefficient nature - as Germany is now finding out. Saying that, from my uni research, solar is on the verge of becoming genuinely cost effective - with no need for subsidies

BadgeIsBack Nov 24th 2014 9:11 pm

Re: ABC Q&A
 
Comments on the left and right always interest me.

I consider myself socially right-wing but if anything, politically, I am a fraction left of centre.

In fact I am a classic Liberal in someways. Almost in the Whig sense.
(In other words, when it suits me!)

chris955 Nov 24th 2014 9:35 pm

Re: ABC Q&A
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11481917)
:lol::rofl:
Priceless!......talk about self delusion:lol::rofl::rofl:

I reckon every comment I see posted on FB is a negative about the current Government and how everyone is looking forward to the next election and a change.


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