12 year old daughter now says she doesnt want to go to australia any advice??
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Yes I agree, what I didnt put in the original post was that when my daughter was 3 and 6 she actually went through 2 spinal operations to detether her spinal cord and when she was 8 she had a foot correction operation and now wears an orthotic splint on her left foot. She goes to mainstream school and apart from the splint is a very healthy child but because of what she has been through her self esteem is quite low and as I said she is a very timid, shy child. So this is a big thing for her, she hated started secondary school too but has adapted to it great so hopefully she will be the same when we get to oz.
I think she is scared because she has come to know all her doctors she has here, although she has not been in hospital for anything for 4 years and only sees them once a year for a check up, this I think is at the back of her mind too
I think she is scared because she has come to know all her doctors she has here, although she has not been in hospital for anything for 4 years and only sees them once a year for a check up, this I think is at the back of her mind too
I am a firm believer that kids are kids and, while we do what we can (all we can) to make them happy and so that they enjoy their life, they don't run the house. However, there are situations where you have to place the mental well being of your child above that of your own. If she really is as delicate as you say I'm not sure I understand why you would risk destabilising this equilibrium that she has accepted which you seem to cultivated for her.
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I'm a little confused. If this is the case and your daughter is obviously so settled with her environment and in a balanced state then why are you considering moving ?
I am a firm believer that kids are kids and, while we do what we can (all we can) to make them happy and so that they enjoy their life, they don't run the house. However, there are situations where you have to place the mental well being of your child above that of your own. If she really is as delicate as you say I'm not sure I understand why you would risk destabilising this equilibrium that she has accepted which you seem to cultivated for her.
I am a firm believer that kids are kids and, while we do what we can (all we can) to make them happy and so that they enjoy their life, they don't run the house. However, there are situations where you have to place the mental well being of your child above that of your own. If she really is as delicate as you say I'm not sure I understand why you would risk destabilising this equilibrium that she has accepted which you seem to cultivated for her.
I dont think I asm being selfish at all as I am doing it purely for the kids, she will learn to adapt as she has to secondary school.
And I am sorry if you think this way but you were the one who said she will adapt!!
Sharon
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The thing is I have heard hundreds of stories over the years about people who move with kids who don't want to come. The ones which end in tears are generally the families who move teenage girls (15-17) who seriously don't want to move yet get forced into it. While most of those do come around after a year or so the resentment for being forced into leaving their boyfriends, etc was crippling for the family.
Your daughter is 12 and IMHO should just be along for the ride, you're doing it for her benefit after all. At 12 years old you wouldn't really expect her to have a say if you sold your house and moved in the UK, but then you explained her very unfortunate medical history and some of the hesitation I got from your original post started to make sense. I took it to mean that you were concerned about removing her from her currently stable environment which she had only just started to feel happy about. So while I previously saw a 12 year old girl who was just being uppity about moving, I then started to see a possible other side to this. Thus I was asking why you plan to move, was it for her, etc.
Now that I have reread the thread again I can see that I missed the part about your sister being here and I'm a little confused again. This obviously sounds like the right move for your and your family so again I can't understand why you are apprehensive about it. She is 12 after all and your gut feeling is that she will be much happier near your sister and in a new country with a new start.
I think your questioning your own judgement. While this is perfectly normal, I wouldn't rely on the opinions of people on an internet forum for something this important. If you feel you have made the right call then do it.
For what it's worth, I am sure she will love it here.
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Some friends of ours emigrated over her 2 years ago and their daughter was 14 at the time and really didn't want to come. SHe spent the first 6 months she was here moping around and constantly on MSN to all her UK friends but then all of a sudden, she started going to parties here, going shopping with friends, movies etc e4tc and now she has an Aussie boyf and doesn;t want to go with her parents on a trip to the Uk this year! teenagers are fickle and soon adapt...
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I often find that if the parents are content and happy then the rest of the household follows suit... chill, keep it cool and encourage slowly the kids, they will adapt so incredibly quickly it is scary! They leave us "grownups" way behind! haha!
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Hi everyone, we are going to australia on a student visa as soon as we seel our house (whenever that will be). We did ask our daughter way back last year before we applied and she said yes she wanted to go. So we did the medicals and applied and got the visa, due to not selling our house with the way the market is, we had planned on being there last august but are still here in glasgow and have had to reapply for another visa and its looking as though we will have to do the medicals again in march if we still dont sell in time.
She just started high school last august and is now saying she doesnt want to go and leave her friends and says she wont be going, anyone any advice? I know many of you will probably have been through this already so just need some help! My sister lives there with my brother in law and niece and she has been on holiday 3 times already and loves it when she is there, we were just there xmas 2007 to jan 2008 and she was crying leaving not wanting to come home so its a complete turn around,
thanks in advance
Sharon
She just started high school last august and is now saying she doesnt want to go and leave her friends and says she wont be going, anyone any advice? I know many of you will probably have been through this already so just need some help! My sister lives there with my brother in law and niece and she has been on holiday 3 times already and loves it when she is there, we were just there xmas 2007 to jan 2008 and she was crying leaving not wanting to come home so its a complete turn around,
thanks in advance
Sharon
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Hi I could not come to Perth until my kids were older and now I live in Perth and they are in the UK. I wished I had bought them out when they were 12.
Perth is the best place to bring up your daughter she will love it here - but she knows no better so be positive and ask her to try it - help her meet other friends and encourage her interests when she is here - in a years time she will have new friends and will not even think about the old one. Warning though do not get a computer straight away for her to access when you get here - she will be messaging her friends and will not help her move on. Good luck do it know before she gets even older as it becomes harder.
Perth is the best place to bring up your daughter she will love it here - but she knows no better so be positive and ask her to try it - help her meet other friends and encourage her interests when she is here - in a years time she will have new friends and will not even think about the old one. Warning though do not get a computer straight away for her to access when you get here - she will be messaging her friends and will not help her move on. Good luck do it know before she gets even older as it becomes harder.
1) She can learn to surf in OZ!
2) She can get to swim with dolphins in OZ!!
3) She can stay out for longer without any idiots harassing her!
4) They have so many shopping malls
5) They have facilities for girls to get into drama/music at schools.
6) She can see the best fireworks!
Really so much to do for a girl here...My 10 year loves being here so much...She loves swimming/diving and playing in the rock pools...
Hope your daughter gets over all this!!
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Haven't read the whole thread, so someone may have said it already.
In my experience, one of the most common problems in situations when parents drag reluctant children to the other side of the planet arises when the kids settle brilliantly but the parents hate it and decide they want to move back. So they have to put the kids through it all over again.
In these situations, the "I'm the parent so I know best" argument starts to wear a little thin. The parents start looking foolish and the children more sensible. But they suffer for their parents' fickleness.
In my experience, one of the most common problems in situations when parents drag reluctant children to the other side of the planet arises when the kids settle brilliantly but the parents hate it and decide they want to move back. So they have to put the kids through it all over again.
In these situations, the "I'm the parent so I know best" argument starts to wear a little thin. The parents start looking foolish and the children more sensible. But they suffer for their parents' fickleness.
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Haven't read the whole thread, so someone may have said it already.
In my experience, one of the most common problems in situations when parents drag reluctant children to the other side of the planet arises when the kids settle brilliantly but the parents hate it and decide they want to move back. So they have to put the kids through it all over again.
In these situations, the "I'm the parent so I know best" argument starts to wear a little thin. The parents start looking foolish and the children more sensible. But they suffer for their parents' fickleness.
In my experience, one of the most common problems in situations when parents drag reluctant children to the other side of the planet arises when the kids settle brilliantly but the parents hate it and decide they want to move back. So they have to put the kids through it all over again.
In these situations, the "I'm the parent so I know best" argument starts to wear a little thin. The parents start looking foolish and the children more sensible. But they suffer for their parents' fickleness.
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Hi everyone, we are going to australia on a student visa as soon as we seel our house (whenever that will be). We did ask our daughter way back last year before we applied and she said yes she wanted to go. So we did the medicals and applied and got the visa, due to not selling our house with the way the market is, we had planned on being there last august but are still here in glasgow and have had to reapply for another visa and its looking as though we will have to do the medicals again in march if we still dont sell in time.
She just started high school last august and is now saying she doesnt want to go and leave her friends and says she wont be going, anyone any advice? I know many of you will probably have been through this already so just need some help! My sister lives there with my brother in law and niece and she has been on holiday 3 times already and loves it when she is there, we were just there xmas 2007 to jan 2008 and she was crying leaving not wanting to come home so its a complete turn around,
thanks in advance
Sharon
She just started high school last august and is now saying she doesnt want to go and leave her friends and says she wont be going, anyone any advice? I know many of you will probably have been through this already so just need some help! My sister lives there with my brother in law and niece and she has been on holiday 3 times already and loves it when she is there, we were just there xmas 2007 to jan 2008 and she was crying leaving not wanting to come home so its a complete turn around,
thanks in advance
Sharon
Im thinking of going to Aus this year with my family,1yr ,5yr,7yr and a 12yr old. Same problem with my 12yr old boy!!His fear is going to school over there.
Im just starting the process,Im headed for Adelaide too,and was looking at the ClipJoint,I think you can do an apprentiship 1 day a month there for 18 mths and get your cert 3 at the end,this would be fab,give me a chance to settle the kids in!
My husband has no trade or skill,so hope he picks up some work to keep the money comming in.Did you use an agent to get your visa?
How much did your course cost,if thats not being to nosey??
Do you have to pay for all the kids to go to school? even the primary school kids,that will be a big expense for us!
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Hi Sharon,just read your thread,
Im thinking of going to Aus this year with my family,1yr ,5yr,7yr and a 12yr old. Same problem with my 12yr old boy!!His fear is going to school over there.
Im just starting the process,Im headed for Adelaide too,and was looking at the ClipJoint,I think you can do an apprentiship 1 day a month there for 18 mths and get your cert 3 at the end,this would be fab,give me a chance to settle the kids in!
My husband has no trade or skill,so hope he picks up some work to keep the money comming in.Did you use an agent to get your visa?
How much did your course cost,if thats not being to nosey??
Do you have to pay for all the kids to go to school? even the primary school kids,that will be a big expense for us!
Im thinking of going to Aus this year with my family,1yr ,5yr,7yr and a 12yr old. Same problem with my 12yr old boy!!His fear is going to school over there.
Im just starting the process,Im headed for Adelaide too,and was looking at the ClipJoint,I think you can do an apprentiship 1 day a month there for 18 mths and get your cert 3 at the end,this would be fab,give me a chance to settle the kids in!
My husband has no trade or skill,so hope he picks up some work to keep the money comming in.Did you use an agent to get your visa?
How much did your course cost,if thats not being to nosey??
Do you have to pay for all the kids to go to school? even the primary school kids,that will be a big expense for us!
Its clipjoint I am going to to do the Dipploma in haidressing & salon management. I dont know about the one day a month course, all I know is I have to do the 2 year study and once I get my qualification because my sister is a citizen there I will have enough points at the end of the 2 years to apply for PR without having to do the graduate year to get the 12 months work experience.
The agent, well we did use an agent for the 1st student visa we got but honestly its a waste of money its really easy to do yourself, just follow the checklist they have with the application. We have already had to apply twice because we cant sell our house and now our medicals have expired and having to do them all again, more money, thats why I am not using an agent, I did the 2nd visa application myself and it was accepted and we got the visas so dont waste your money like we did, I actually did most of the work myself for the 1st visa, it was only the face my daughter has a medical condition that we did but they called me up and asked me the answers to write on the form anyway so a complete waste of money!
I am not going to book the medicals or apply for the visa till we have a buyer for the house this time, cant afford it!
Yes you do need to pay for the kids schooling and its about $5000 a year in adelaide schools so its alot thats why we cant go till we have sold the house need the money to get started over there and my course fees are a lot about $33,000 for the 2 years (about £17,500), its an expensive way to do it but we are in the same position as you and my husband has no trade. I used to work as a project administrator 6 years ago but its not recent enough so I either have to go back to work here for a year then wait at least a year for the visa to be processed or we do it with me training as a hairdresser and thats what we have decided to do.
Have you ever been? We have been 3 times in 6 years, my daughter loves it when she is there and cries not wanting to leave when we are coming home, we were just there xmas 2007 and she absolutely loved it, just the fact she has now settled into secondary school I think but she will make new friends and her 16 year old cousin is just back from holiday in adelaide visiting the family and she is going over as soon as she turns 18 on a working visa she loved it so much. She had a word to Elise about it all and thats what changed Elise's mind she is dying to go now,
Hope this all helps anything else please ask,
Sharon
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Hello again sharon,
Thanks so much for taking the time to answer me,its so difficult getting it all straight in my head,there's so much red tape! Im so glad your daughter has come around,its so important to have everyone wanting the same thing.
I have friends in Adelaide,they are over there 3 years now,they love it.
No we were never there,Just what Iv heard about it,the lifestyle,it sounds so great.My boys are very sporty,so I hope they love it as much as i think they will.
It kind of takes over your life,iv become obsessed with finding information about Aus,I think I could now work as an agent myself. We are keeping our house here until we are sure we can make a go of it.We will rent it out for a year or two,then hopefully sell,in saying that the houses are not selling here neither,so god knows when Il get that Aussie home.
I would love to just sell up,but myOH is being sensible,thats usually my job,but as I said,Iv got so wrapped up with the Aussie dream,Il give him his way this time.
I read that you can do that course 1 day a month,as an apprentice,I went on to there web site and seen this in the course details,maybe that was wishful thinking.You were obviously in contact with Cilpjoint,you know better than me.Id love to be starting the course in the next few months,id say it will be great.
Im trying to work out how we would survive on 20 hours work(wages).Thats all myOH can work on visa,isnt it? I dont think we would be able to work also,that would be defeating the purpose of trying to have abetter lifestyle.
How much was the student visa?If you dont mind me asking?Did it take long to get it?
I thought that you are a quailified hairdresser after the first year(cert 3)??
My OH was looking into maybe doing a cookery course,if I didnt want to do Hairdressing.
I hope I havent asked you too many questions,But you know what its like,its great to find someone in the same situation.
Thanks sooo much!!
Catherine.
Thanks so much for taking the time to answer me,its so difficult getting it all straight in my head,there's so much red tape! Im so glad your daughter has come around,its so important to have everyone wanting the same thing.
I have friends in Adelaide,they are over there 3 years now,they love it.
No we were never there,Just what Iv heard about it,the lifestyle,it sounds so great.My boys are very sporty,so I hope they love it as much as i think they will.
It kind of takes over your life,iv become obsessed with finding information about Aus,I think I could now work as an agent myself. We are keeping our house here until we are sure we can make a go of it.We will rent it out for a year or two,then hopefully sell,in saying that the houses are not selling here neither,so god knows when Il get that Aussie home.
I would love to just sell up,but myOH is being sensible,thats usually my job,but as I said,Iv got so wrapped up with the Aussie dream,Il give him his way this time.
I read that you can do that course 1 day a month,as an apprentice,I went on to there web site and seen this in the course details,maybe that was wishful thinking.You were obviously in contact with Cilpjoint,you know better than me.Id love to be starting the course in the next few months,id say it will be great.
Im trying to work out how we would survive on 20 hours work(wages).Thats all myOH can work on visa,isnt it? I dont think we would be able to work also,that would be defeating the purpose of trying to have abetter lifestyle.
How much was the student visa?If you dont mind me asking?Did it take long to get it?
I thought that you are a quailified hairdresser after the first year(cert 3)??
My OH was looking into maybe doing a cookery course,if I didnt want to do Hairdressing.
I hope I havent asked you too many questions,But you know what its like,its great to find someone in the same situation.
Thanks sooo much!!
Catherine.
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Hello again sharon,
Thanks so much for taking the time to answer me,its so difficult getting it all straight in my head,there's so much red tape! Im so glad your daughter has come around,its so important to have everyone wanting the same thing.
I have friends in Adelaide,they are over there 3 years now,they love it.
No we were never there,Just what Iv heard about it,the lifestyle,it sounds so great.My boys are very sporty,so I hope they love it as much as i think they will.
It kind of takes over your life,iv become obsessed with finding information about Aus,I think I could now work as an agent myself. We are keeping our house here until we are sure we can make a go of it.We will rent it out for a year or two,then hopefully sell,in saying that the houses are not selling here neither,so god knows when Il get that Aussie home.
I would love to just sell up,but myOH is being sensible,thats usually my job,but as I said,Iv got so wrapped up with the Aussie dream,Il give him his way this time.
I read that you can do that course 1 day a month,as an apprentice,I went on to there web site and seen this in the course details,maybe that was wishful thinking.You were obviously in contact with Cilpjoint,you know better than me.Id love to be starting the course in the next few months,id say it will be great.
Im trying to work out how we would survive on 20 hours work(wages).Thats all myOH can work on visa,isnt it? I dont think we would be able to work also,that would be defeating the purpose of trying to have abetter lifestyle.
How much was the student visa?If you dont mind me asking?Did it take long to get it?
I thought that you are a quailified hairdresser after the first year(cert 3)??
My OH was looking into maybe doing a cookery course,if I didnt want to do Hairdressing.
I hope I havent asked you too many questions,But you know what its like,its great to find someone in the same situation.
Thanks sooo much!!
Catherine.
Thanks so much for taking the time to answer me,its so difficult getting it all straight in my head,there's so much red tape! Im so glad your daughter has come around,its so important to have everyone wanting the same thing.
I have friends in Adelaide,they are over there 3 years now,they love it.
No we were never there,Just what Iv heard about it,the lifestyle,it sounds so great.My boys are very sporty,so I hope they love it as much as i think they will.
It kind of takes over your life,iv become obsessed with finding information about Aus,I think I could now work as an agent myself. We are keeping our house here until we are sure we can make a go of it.We will rent it out for a year or two,then hopefully sell,in saying that the houses are not selling here neither,so god knows when Il get that Aussie home.
I would love to just sell up,but myOH is being sensible,thats usually my job,but as I said,Iv got so wrapped up with the Aussie dream,Il give him his way this time.
I read that you can do that course 1 day a month,as an apprentice,I went on to there web site and seen this in the course details,maybe that was wishful thinking.You were obviously in contact with Cilpjoint,you know better than me.Id love to be starting the course in the next few months,id say it will be great.
Im trying to work out how we would survive on 20 hours work(wages).Thats all myOH can work on visa,isnt it? I dont think we would be able to work also,that would be defeating the purpose of trying to have abetter lifestyle.
How much was the student visa?If you dont mind me asking?Did it take long to get it?
I thought that you are a quailified hairdresser after the first year(cert 3)??
My OH was looking into maybe doing a cookery course,if I didnt want to do Hairdressing.
I hope I havent asked you too many questions,But you know what its like,its great to find someone in the same situation.
Thanks sooo much!!
Catherine.
Thats our concern too the 20 hrs a week work rule, thats why we need to sell the house to give us some money in the bank to live on as the course is mon-thur 8.30-5 for the 1st 6 months and the remainder of the first year is tues-fri 8.30-5pm so with 2 kids not much chance of being able to work myself for the first year.
yes after the first 13 months roughly Robyn said you are a qualified hairdresser with your cert III you then go on to do the diploma in salon management.
The student visa is cheap £230 but the medicals for myself, my husband, 12 year old daughter and 3 year old son with the chest x rays for us (except 3 year old) anyone over 11 needs a chest x ray this cost us £600 last feb and we are having to do them all over again as they are only valid for a year so we are waiting till we get an offer on the house before doing them again.
The visa you can apply for 124 days before your course starts and you can enter australia 3 months before the course starts, it only takes a couple of weeks for the visa to be granted if all is straight forward with medical issue etc.Ours were sent to sydney the first time but still only took 3 weeks for a decision so really quick.
Dont worry about asking too many questions I know what its like and i still email Robyn if i hear of anything new happening,
Sharon
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Hi sharon,
Thanks so much for your informative email..It's great having someone to talk to with a bit of inside information.Thats a shame that you have to complete two years to be recognised for PR.I dont want to even convert that £17000 into euros,god, Il need some amount of money if we have to survive for two years..
But, I still think it will be worth it,do you?
I think Id enjoy learning Hairdressing,something for me,after four kids,I could do with an interest outside the home and what better place to do it!
I wonder if there are alot of international students there on the course?Im 36yrs old,I hope im not the oldest on the course??
My friend in Aus says there are ways around the 20 hr rule,depending on what type of work yourOH gets..Im sure your sister will tell you the same.Your so lucky having her in Aus,its a great help.
My OH job at the moment not great,Dont know wether to just leave this job and go for Aus??We also will have to get a loan to tide us over,the rent from our house here will pay our mortgage while we are in Aus,I hope..
Wouldnt it be funny if we ended up training together!
Thanx a mill for your help,
Keep me up to date with your progress,
Ill probably get in touch again soon,when I start panicking again,
Hope your house sells soon,
Catherine.
Thanks so much for your informative email..It's great having someone to talk to with a bit of inside information.Thats a shame that you have to complete two years to be recognised for PR.I dont want to even convert that £17000 into euros,god, Il need some amount of money if we have to survive for two years..
But, I still think it will be worth it,do you?
I think Id enjoy learning Hairdressing,something for me,after four kids,I could do with an interest outside the home and what better place to do it!
I wonder if there are alot of international students there on the course?Im 36yrs old,I hope im not the oldest on the course??
My friend in Aus says there are ways around the 20 hr rule,depending on what type of work yourOH gets..Im sure your sister will tell you the same.Your so lucky having her in Aus,its a great help.
My OH job at the moment not great,Dont know wether to just leave this job and go for Aus??We also will have to get a loan to tide us over,the rent from our house here will pay our mortgage while we are in Aus,I hope..
Wouldnt it be funny if we ended up training together!
Thanx a mill for your help,
Keep me up to date with your progress,
Ill probably get in touch again soon,when I start panicking again,
Hope your house sells soon,
Catherine.
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Hiya, yeah no worried I know what its like when you are just looking into it all especially, one thing after another!
Yes I do think it will be worth it, it is a lot of money but hopefully theres a light at then end of it and will be so good for the kids.
Yes there are a lot of international students I asked Robyn when I was over on holiday and she also said that no one fails the course, you are assessed as you go along so no big exams at the end of it!
No you wont be the oldest i asked that too, lol, I am 35 just now and turn 36 in October this year, so we will be the oldest ones there together, lol.
yes my sister has told us that too about the 20 hour work rule, she first went over on a years working visa when she was 18 to stay with her boyfriends parents many years ago now! She was supposed to work for 3 months then not work for 3 months she worked for the whole year.
No worries as i said go onto the clip join website and contact Robyn the academy manager and she will keep you right but I am sure for PR you have to do the 2 year full time course.
Dont worry I will keep in touch and let you know as soon as we sell this bloody house, feels as though its never going to happen but I am sure it will eventually. We are hoping to be there to start the october course, the next one is July but after the last 2 disappointments we are not doing anything till we get a buyer then we can get off and start our new life.
Speak soon
Sharon
Yes I do think it will be worth it, it is a lot of money but hopefully theres a light at then end of it and will be so good for the kids.
Yes there are a lot of international students I asked Robyn when I was over on holiday and she also said that no one fails the course, you are assessed as you go along so no big exams at the end of it!
No you wont be the oldest i asked that too, lol, I am 35 just now and turn 36 in October this year, so we will be the oldest ones there together, lol.
yes my sister has told us that too about the 20 hour work rule, she first went over on a years working visa when she was 18 to stay with her boyfriends parents many years ago now! She was supposed to work for 3 months then not work for 3 months she worked for the whole year.
No worries as i said go onto the clip join website and contact Robyn the academy manager and she will keep you right but I am sure for PR you have to do the 2 year full time course.
Dont worry I will keep in touch and let you know as soon as we sell this bloody house, feels as though its never going to happen but I am sure it will eventually. We are hoping to be there to start the october course, the next one is July but after the last 2 disappointments we are not doing anything till we get a buyer then we can get off and start our new life.
Speak soon
Sharon