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Old Mar 29th 2017, 4:59 am
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I am currently looking into the process of applying for a work permit in barbados.
I am a qualified swimming teacher and coach plus life guarding qualifications and experienced in the co-ordinating of swim schools.
I am looking at coming over at the end of the year to see how successful I may be .

I have heard that if the visa application is denied you are banned from the country for a year , is this correct ?

And has anybody applied lately to have an idea on how long this takes roughly ?

I also have seen different requirements n explanations of requirements to the work permit which confuses me .
Does the police certificate have to be from just your country of origin or EVERY country in which you have lived in ?

And do you have to have fingerprints aswell ?

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hi.. as the voice of doom. Swim instructors are plentiful on the island. The National Sports Council (NCS) has a swim program set up with the primary schools, in conjunction with the only 50 meter pool on the island and they also conduct training session with the local secondary schools. there is one private school that has their own swimming pool (25 yard) and has their coaches/instructors in place (Barbadians).

There are a number of swim programs for training on the island and each has their own coaches. I will say, there are a few coaches from Cuba here, as there is a contract through the sports council to bring these coaches in (I don't think i'm wrong about that). and a couple of them have stayed and are able to work here.

the NSC also holds training session for coach training and encourages coaches to seek further training elsewhere..

The National Conservation Commission (NCC) is in charge of Lifeguards in Barbados.. this is for the beaches that have lifeguard stations. These guards also run swimming programs for children adults.

apply for a work permit for yourself as a swim instructor, would require either someone to hire you (and they would have to prove you are the only one that can do that job, or for you to start your own business and to be perfectly honest with you, I'd take great offense to the Barbados Immigration office if they gave you one.. simply because there are many Barbadians (including myself) who are trained in swimming, swim instruction and life-guarding.

Sorry.. if, by the end of my post, I sound a bit offended.. but.. well .. Anyway. . good luck
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Its something we in sunnier climes hear a lot - 'i visited, love the lifestyle and my job is just right for there, so when do i get the visa/job.'

Think of it like this. The islands all have local populations that include pretty much every skill you can think of. Often there are countries like china and cuba offering extensive subsidised university educations in useful disciplines. If you arent independantly wealthy and can financially seriously add to the countries coffers, and dont want to take a lical job why would you be allowed to compete with locals for local jobs they can fill? Costs of island life are also frequently misunderstood. A western lifestyle isnt cheap, it costs more than where you live now almost certainly.

Even if you think you are able to support yourself, some islands are land poor, that hut on the beach you covet - its worth several million dollarpounds... And a brazilian billionaire bought them all anyway giving life interests to the occupants - to preserve the view from his mansion.
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Hi PJa sorry I worked through your posts in earliest to latest so only just looking at this one. Hopefully the following information can answer your questions from a number of your posts:

When you arrive in Barbados you are stamped entry with expiration for business, pleasure (as a visitor) or to live (with status). At immigration you will be given a brief interview as to why you are coming to Bim and what you intend to do. You cannot say you are looking for work you will probably be turned away just like anyone in the UK or NZ would be.

Therefore if you rock up with a 6 month ticket at 24yrs old they are likely to get suspicious and give you possibly a week or 2 then ask you to go down to Bridgetown for an extension which again will raise a lot of alarms.

You would only get a work permit if you can offer a service which is not easily accessible in Barbados ie a surgeon or tax specialist. Lifeguards, swimming instructors are plentiful on the island and if you even suggest to immigration you are there to take work away from locals you are likely to have any stay refused.

If you want to go for 3 months you will likely have to show that you can fund yourself and have accommodation for that period - 6 months you would have to prove even more.

Just like someone from Barbados cannot pitch up in the UK without sponsorship or proof of who they are visiting or why they are here the same applies in Barbados.

Yes you are right if you are refused any status including extension they have the right to issue you with a no return in 1 year (in fact I heard they were extending that to 2 years in line with UK).
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Thanks for your reply .

Yep great . Every time I have been to Barbados I have been stamped for 90 days .
So should be ok.

Even if I book a 2 week return ticket n they stamp me 90 days I can obviously still stay up to that period .

So 3 months it is .

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Originally Posted by Pja93 View Post
Thanks for your reply .

Yep great . Every time I have been to Barbados I have been stamped for 90 days .
So should be ok.

Even if I book a 2 week return ticket n they stamp me 90 days I can obviously still stay up to that period .

So 3 months it is .

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Enjoy your holiday in Barbados , as that's all it will be as others have said.Yes of course you can stay up to the 90 days if that's what they stamp but would your current employer be happy for you to be away that long?
Now, if you were a PADI certified diver then you'd likely find a dive school position here in the Philippines , but the same comments apply here for swimming instructors/lifeguards - plenty of locals to do the work.
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I have to say that the way some of the responses are worded to innocent people asking innocent questions feel pretty awful to be honest. I've only ever asked the odd question on here and the negativity and tone of response can often make the forums feel totally unwelcoming.
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Honestly I think mostly that people are just trying to set your level of expectation, to tell you life as it really is, in a way if you arrive on an island and expect to do certain things Apart from being a legit tourist - the islands legal system doesn't want you, and the local people don't want you, in the same way that your local country probably doesn't want the locals of this country.

Try to be careful not to break the rules, remember they can always deport you and stamp your passport in such a way that your country any other country you visit will become highly suspicious As you pass borders. Remember that the data bases of this sort of information are shared by countries freely and globally these days, that's what the immigration officials see when they swipe your passport.

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Uk_Grenada.. I'm going to have to assume she has directed that statement at me.. but.. I did say, in this particular post and in the one I answered on Mary's original post, that I am the voice of doom, when it comes to this question. .I'm not going to white wash anything and tell you it's fine, not a problem. except that it isn't fine and it will be a problem..

Your work permit is for you.. For your spouse who comes with you, the government restricts what they can do.. . Owning a business does not automatically guarantee that you can work on this island, if you don't have the valid documents to do that. it happens in every country in the world (well I would guess most or many).

The original posting asked about getting a work permit for to teach swimming and be a lifeguard. I gave him the information on really why it just wouldn't be a good idea to even try. I'm sorry if I didn't sugar coat it and many him feel more welcome.

Want to come on Holiday, see the island, spend some time on our beaches.. Fabulous. come on down.. I'll give you great info on where to stay, what to do, where to eat, no worries there.. and I'll make you welcome every day of the week.. but this is a totally different question and circumstance .. Sure.. he's fine to come. .but don't try to get a work permit for a swim instructor. .I'd assume that immigration would laugh him out of the building. and why put someone through that..

have a nice and I hope you are enjoying the island.
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Originally Posted by Mary Gray View Post
I have to say that the way some of the responses are worded to innocent people asking innocent questions feel pretty awful to be honest. I've only ever asked the odd question on here and the negativity and tone of response can often make the forums feel totally unwelcoming.
Hi Mary I feel the need to challenge your statement rather than apologise - I just took a look back at your previous posts to understand where you were coming from and noticed that I had personally offered you a private conversation to let you know more about my experiences, but heard nothing more from you. Many others have also offered this level of service to people.

You say that you think that some responses are "pretty awful" and stated can "often" make the forums feel "totally" unwelcoming. I think this response is simply not fair. When we look for negatives in a situation they are easy to find but I note that you have chosen not to mention the positives. It is interesting that people choose to criticise things that are "free" as if they are paying for a service.

Normally I would do the moderator role of placation but in this case I am going to step up and push back. Everyone gives their time for free on this forum and we often get asked the same questions again and again so sometimes when we state something it may include information that might or might not be relevant but is covered in case it comes up.

I personally was grateful for all the help I got from here when I first emigrated to Barbados and am repaying the kindness (for free) over the last 10 years - many come in and get their questions answered and don't ever bother to say thank you or give back and some choose to come on and berate the free advice given, yet the contributors still continue from the kindness of their hearts to contribute. Many of the contributions in this forum have changed people's lives, improved their holidays and given free advice that would cost a fortune to pay an expert for and I for one appreciate everyone who takes their personal time to help others.

Sometimes there is no pallitable way to deliver news that may shatter someones goals and dreams but we are all coming from a good place of giving up our time to help others achieve it where possible

P.S Anyone wanting to live in Barbados will have to get used to people just saying it like it is Bajans don't feel the need to walk on eggshells, protect your feelings or sugar coat feedback or response - they deal in real talk - just saying it as it is!

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