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Old Dec 19th 2009, 7:33 pm
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Happy Xmas to you all !!!

I have a bit of a problem. I rent my home in St Philip out to holiday-makers for short term rent... Basically 1 week/2 week etc etc.

I always ask the guests to respect the A/C which is in all 3 bedrooms and to leave it off during the day. In all reality, set at 23 and auto is perfect for a good night sleep.

Today I get my BL&P elec bill for November ... 989$ BDS. During this time I have had guests for about 2.5 weeks. They have had the A/C on 17 and full all day and night !!!

To counter this I'm looking at either timer system or solar power.

Anyone know how ? Or anyone have either these solutions in place ???

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Old Dec 19th 2009, 10:45 pm
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take out the a/c if you don't expect paying customers to use it. Besides, they need it most during the day.

either charge more, take out the a/c, or live with it. But it's unreasonable to ask people to regulate their use of the facilities that offer them comfort b/c you might not like the bill.

I'm currently staying at a nice guesthouse as I type this. I'd be offended if, for the price I pay, I was ordered to ration my a/c usage.
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Old Dec 20th 2009, 3:10 am
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I don't want to sound harsh but I have to agree with the other poster.. Basically you need to either raise the rent, as it includes A/C.. Take the A/C out if you don't want them to use it all the time, or ask for a deposit of 1000.00 (base this amount of previous visitors and use and average) for use of the A/C and the remainder will be refunded once the bill has come in.

I've stayed in hotels and other rental properties and wouldn't dream of not using the A/C if it was available. Now I agree 17 is a bit low, but remember if these people are not Barbadians, you can pretty much expect them to want the place cold (not cool) in the heat we have been having.

good luck..
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Thing is though its in the bedrooms, not in the lounge or dining room. There is a constant breeze and the ceilings in the lounge are 40 ft high with french doors to keep the place airy. Its the using the bedroom AC to cool the rest of the house and leaving the doors open that annoys me.

I know others who rent out who take meter readings and apply a 'fair use policy', so that's an option as well.

Preference is to just put solar in for the whole house and pool, but I'm finding it hard to find anywhere that does this. I dont want to put the price up to cover it, as not all guests do this .. Most in fact use it correctly, and price rises would be unfair.

So if anyone knows anywhere that does solar for elec (not water ... i have this) then that would be great

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Over the years I have known many people who practicly lived in their bedrooms..... because that was the only room that had AC.
Some people will turn it on just because it's there. I know of hotels that have a coin system, not certain how it works but maybe you can check with Light and Power for suggestions.
Other then that I would have to agree with the others, charge more money to cover costs put a lock on it.
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I was going to suggests that maybe there is something you can work out with BL&P with regards to the meter reading.. Make sure you read it prior to an arrival and maybe half way through.. give the guests and estimate of the usage and except payment upon checkout. That's labour for you.. but it might work.. or find out of BL&P has something they can do for you with regards to this. Have them calculate past usage and require (not request, require) a deposit that is refundable if not used...).

We don't A/C at all, but my brother-in-law does .. 2 of 3 bedrooms. They had a nephew in the house for 3 weeks while they were on holiday this summer. When they returned.. they found the fridge eaten bare and when the bill came in for electric it was 3 times the normal usage (they normally have 6 people in the house and there were 2 house sitting..).. you just never know...
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I thought I heard that there was an increase for Light/Power recently. Apparently quite high. That might be adding to your problem too?

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I think the best thing to do is put up a small sign (NOTICE),telling your guest about remembering to turn off all airconditioning when leaving the house,and the high cost of electricity you endure as a result,be as polite as possible,this should not hamper business as some people said.
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Another "appealer" would be to include in the notice that the conservation of both power and water is especially important to a small island like Barbados and that "your help is greatly appreciated in helping us conserve essential energy by turning off all appliances when not in use"

I got real vexed the other day as this couple was at one of the hotels in the gap showering their little boy who decided that he wasnt going to leave the shower - he had a great big ocean to play in and a massive pool but stayed under the running water of the shower near the pool for over half an hour as the parents indulged his tantrums and thought it was so sweet him playing under this running water - I so wanted to say something bout the water wastage but i know that once i start i gonna go off
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Thanks for all the replies !

I'm going to try the "sign" route first ... It may help

Also, talking to a couple of island solar companies, it's likely next year 2010 that BL&P will offer the buy-back scheme to people who put in solar power. This means that it's possible to not have a bill at all as excess is sold back to the grid.

I'll post about this once I get some more info, might be of interest generally what with the price rises !

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good to know that the buy-back may soon be an option.
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I think I saw solar panels at PriceSmart the other day.. should be interesting.. I know someone who was bringing in the panels and whole set up for solar electric.. Could be helpful..
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Originally Posted by Sunniebgi View Post
I think I saw solar panels at PriceSmart the other day.. should be interesting.. I know someone who was bringing in the panels and whole set up for solar electric.. Could be helpful..
Yeah, could be. Thing is you normally (in Europe) have to get it supplied and fitted by a elec supplier in order to do the buy-back solution, so buying it 3rd party, although cheaper, might not be cheapest way to do it in the longer term.
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Yeah, could be. Thing is you normally (in Europe) have to get it supplied and fitted by a elec supplier in order to do the buy-back solution, so buying it 3rd party, although cheaper, might not be cheapest way to do it in the longer term.
but remember you are in Barbados.. soooo.. things are different. I understand in Canada, there are laws even about Home repair etc etc.. as in DIY isn't much DIY anymore.

Don't have a clue about the "laws" here when it comes to that kind of thing. but I seriously doubt there are any, or at least right now. You maybe able to install and then the electric company would have to come do an inspection to make sure everything is ok before they do the buy back... but who knows.. we wait and see.
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Barbados Light and Power put the rates up recently for electricity, and they plan to do it again in the new year.
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