A Place to Visit
On a recent trip to Inverness I went on my first visit to Culloden Battlefield. To my surprise I found it very moving - depsite the hundreds of touristst. Needless toi say hundreds from South nof the Bordewr and Over the Pond and hardly a Scots voice to be heard !
Of late I have been reflecting on my preconceptions and prejudices about Scorttish and Brirtish History. Suffice it to say that I now have a more positive attitude to those who died for the Stuarts. Mt Whigish and Covenanting prejudices are morphing into a respect for "The King Over The Water". |
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It is many decades since I visited Culloden, but my experience then was similar to yours.
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Originally Posted by scot47
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On a recent trip to Inverness I went on my first visit to Culloden Battlefield. To my surprise I found it very moving - depsite the hundreds of touristst. Needless toi say hundreds from South nof the Bordewr and Over the Pond and hardly a Scots voice to be heard !
Of late I have been reflecting on my preconceptions and prejudices about Scorttish and Brirtish History. Suffice it to say that I now have a more positive attitude to those who died for the Stuarts. Mt Whigish and Covenanting prejudices are morphing into a respect for "The King Over The Water". I think the Hanoverian Kings were more or less the right thing at the right time ... But I suppose I'm looking at them through an English rather than a Scottish lens. |
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Robin, if your teachers were Marxists, then surely they must have challenged the Whig view of history? Or they wouldn't have been Marxists, would they?
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Originally Posted by Editha
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Robin, if your teachers were Marxists, then surely they must have challenged the Whig view of history? Or they wouldn't have been Marxists, would they?
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Originally Posted by robin1234
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True but I think back in the 1960s Marxists and Whigs agreed on the perfectibility of man, especially after a few drinks.
The Whigs weren't great champions of the working class either, largely because it hadn't been invented back then. |
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
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It seems improbable that Whigs and Marxists ever had a drink together. You never know though. We may live in a multiverse.
The Whigs weren't great champions of the working class either, largely because it hadn't been invented back then. The Whig Tradition — Faculty of History |
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G.M. Trevelyan is regarded as the last great historian of the Whig tradition. He died in 1903. His life of Garibaldi, and his three volume social history of England are still worth reading.
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Originally Posted by Editha
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G.M. Trevelyan is regarded as the last great historian of the Whig tradition. He died in 1903. His life of Garibaldi, and his three volume social history of England are still worth reading.
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I beg your pardon. Oh well, he was around long enough to have had a drink with E.P. Thompson and Christopher Hill.
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Originally Posted by Editha
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G.M. Trevelyan is regarded as the last great historian of the Whig tradition. He died in 1903. His life of Garibaldi, and his three volume social history of England are still worth reading.
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
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I'm not sure that being a historian of the Whig tradition is the same thing as being a Whig. A historian of the whig tradition is just a mouthy old fogey eulogising Victorian Britain (and ignoring it's obvious faults).
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Originally Posted by Editha
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Clearly you haven't read the whig historians.
I think The Archers do better at producing maudlin rubbish. |
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The Whigs I am referring to were the political and religious tendency in `17th and 18th century. Not the ghastly Establishment Historians of Oxford !
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