Sale of hotel & golf courses
Apr 3rd 2019, 9:16 am
#136
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Re: CE hotels & golf courses
No press statement, no annoucent from the Ayuntamiento, no press statement. However the golf courses and the clubhouse together with the derelict hotel are now owned by the original bidder Hidrocarbon Malaga who are part of a much larger group and very well funded and have a very smart golf course, Guadalmina in Malaga Province.
You and Mikecol are always 'in the know' so I am sure that this is a good first step. But you know the mayor will jump on this - but for some reason he hasn't. I wonder why? Long experience of being let down in CE MF/Town hall/lawyers etc etc makes me want to see actual evidence of changes occurring, and who knows when that will happen. No press statement only underlines that - making me doubly cautious.
Hope alls well with you both with grey skies and rain in Brussels and constant activity at the EU - makes me want to escape to the sun! We were woken up last week after midnight with helicopters, searchlights etc etc. As you know we live in the EU district and can see the huge buildings (or some of them) from our place. I switched on the TV fearing another terrorist attack, but it was the leaders finishing up another long B-meeting. And their security people making all the kerfuffle!
Aaah to have a nice beer and lunch, with you both, in a chiringuito overlooking the ocean - away from all this!
Jon
Last edited by Jon-Bxl; Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:25 am.
Apr 3rd 2019, 6:40 pm
#137
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Re: CE hotels & golf courses
Thanks John.
You and Mikecol are always 'in the know' so I am sure that this is a good first step. But you know the mayor will jump on this - but for some reason he hasn't. I wonder why? Long experience of being let down in CE MF/Town hall/lawyers etc etc makes me want to see actual evidence of changes occurring, and who knows when that will happen. No press statement only underlines that - making me doubly cautious.
Hope alls well with you both with grey skies and rain in Brussels and constant activity at the EU - makes me want to escape to the sun! We were woken up last week after midnight with helicopters, searchlights etc etc. As you know we live in the EU district and can see the huge buildings (or some of them) from our place. I switched on the TV fearing another terrorist attack, but it was the leaders finishing up another long B-meeting. And their security people making all the kerfuffle!
Aaah to have a nice beer and lunch, with you both, in a chiringuito overlooking the ocean - away from all this!
Jon
You and Mikecol are always 'in the know' so I am sure that this is a good first step. But you know the mayor will jump on this - but for some reason he hasn't. I wonder why? Long experience of being let down in CE MF/Town hall/lawyers etc etc makes me want to see actual evidence of changes occurring, and who knows when that will happen. No press statement only underlines that - making me doubly cautious.
Hope alls well with you both with grey skies and rain in Brussels and constant activity at the EU - makes me want to escape to the sun! We were woken up last week after midnight with helicopters, searchlights etc etc. As you know we live in the EU district and can see the huge buildings (or some of them) from our place. I switched on the TV fearing another terrorist attack, but it was the leaders finishing up another long B-meeting. And their security people making all the kerfuffle!
Aaah to have a nice beer and lunch, with you both, in a chiringuito overlooking the ocean - away from all this!
Jon
Apr 12th 2019, 9:12 pm
#138
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Re: CE hotels & golf courses
Has there been an announcement from the ayuntamiento? Rumours are running rife AGAIN 
Apr 13th 2019, 5:57 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
I’m just confused. One person says it’ s definately sold & Javier (from the golf club) has the contract to build the new spa hotel and another person says don’t believe anything until you see the cranes. Well, I’m not so interested in timescale of the build, just wondered if the sale has happened and been officially announced. Confused.
Apr 13th 2019, 7:17 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
I’m just confused. One person says it’ s definately sold & Javier (from the golf club) has the contract to build the new spa hotel and another person says don’t believe anything until you see the cranes. Well, I’m not so interested in timescale of the build, just wondered if the sale has happened and been officially announced. Confused.
Apr 13th 2019, 7:23 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
Umm, OK sounds like it’s all rumours then. Thanks John.
Apr 13th 2019, 7:36 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
No the sale happened around christmas beyond that you are spot on. The only definitive answers will appear on the cadastral register after a few months. No doubt whoever they are will have set up an SPV for ownership so a simple search will not tell us a lot. The local elections are coming up around 23rd May so the pp publicity machine should kick in soon claiming all sorts of kudos to go with the roadworks which have still not started!
Apr 13th 2019, 7:45 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
No the sale happened around christmas beyond that you are spot on. The only definitive answers will appear on the cadastral register after a few months. No doubt whoever they are will have set up an SPV for ownership so a simple search will not tell us a lot. The local elections are coming up around 23rd May so the pp publicity machine should kick in soon claiming all sorts of kudos to go with the roadworks which have still not started!
Apr 13th 2019, 7:56 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
Perhaps that’s the problem they have faded away so the contractor doesn’t know where to start. The ones at the post box r/about didn’t just fade they went along with most of the of the road surface, dam dangerous potholes is all that’s left. 😪👎🏻
Apr 14th 2019, 6:11 am
#146
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
Precisely my point, its election time, so surely the mayor would want to publicise a massive project bringing jobs and additional tourism money etc to Ayamonte. I cant understand why its not public.
The thing may have been sold, and I believe it has, if Esurijohn and Mikecol say so, but IMO, NOTHING changes, until a project plan is made and work starts. When I see cranes, trucks, workmen etc actually DOING something, then I might become excited about the (possible) potential of all this. Long experience of 'the system' here makes me wary, and so I 'smell a rat'.
Thank goodness we love being in CE... Warts and all!!
Jon
The thing may have been sold, and I believe it has, if Esurijohn and Mikecol say so, but IMO, NOTHING changes, until a project plan is made and work starts. When I see cranes, trucks, workmen etc actually DOING something, then I might become excited about the (possible) potential of all this. Long experience of 'the system' here makes me wary, and so I 'smell a rat'.
Thank goodness we love being in CE... Warts and all!!
Jon
Apr 14th 2019, 10:05 am
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
Precisely my point, its election time, so surely the mayor would want to publicise a massive project bringing jobs and additional tourism money etc to Ayamonte. I cant understand why its not public.
The thing may have been sold, and I believe it has, if Esurijohn and Mikecol say so, but IMO, NOTHING changes, until a project plan is made and work starts. When I see cranes, trucks, workmen etc actually DOING something, then I might become excited about the (possible) potential of all this. Long experience of 'the system' here makes me wary, and so I 'smell a rat'.
Thank goodness we love being in CE... Warts and all!!
Jon
The thing may have been sold, and I believe it has, if Esurijohn and Mikecol say so, but IMO, NOTHING changes, until a project plan is made and work starts. When I see cranes, trucks, workmen etc actually DOING something, then I might become excited about the (possible) potential of all this. Long experience of 'the system' here makes me wary, and so I 'smell a rat'.
Thank goodness we love being in CE... Warts and all!!
Jon
May 17th 2019, 8:08 am
#148
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
As weve seen on the other thread the golf course is closing.
Quote: (From the captain)
Most of us were lead to believe that the sale to the new owners had already gone ahead, but this latest development castes some doubt on this.
I mentioned on this thread, that after many years of experience here, I have no confidence in 'the system' here, and in my last post (2 above) even 'smelled a rat'.
This very sad news comes as no surprise. I would also take a heavy 'pinch of salt' with me if I was at the meeting planned with the current management. Not in the least because some stuff related to a possible sale may be business-confidential. Also each person will have their own level of trust at the quality of the information presented.
Going 'Monty Python' there may just be one tiny possibility of a 'bright side'......
... This may be a strategic move from any (possible) new owner, to ' clean out the stables' before taking over.
But of course I remain very sceptical about all this.
Bad news for golfers and/or visitors and/or property owners.
What a mess, what a shame..
Jon
Quote: (From the captain)
Most of us were lead to believe that the sale to the new owners had already gone ahead, but this latest development castes some doubt on this.
I mentioned on this thread, that after many years of experience here, I have no confidence in 'the system' here, and in my last post (2 above) even 'smelled a rat'.
This very sad news comes as no surprise. I would also take a heavy 'pinch of salt' with me if I was at the meeting planned with the current management. Not in the least because some stuff related to a possible sale may be business-confidential. Also each person will have their own level of trust at the quality of the information presented.
Going 'Monty Python' there may just be one tiny possibility of a 'bright side'......
... This may be a strategic move from any (possible) new owner, to ' clean out the stables' before taking over.
But of course I remain very sceptical about all this.
Bad news for golfers and/or visitors and/or property owners.
What a mess, what a shame..
Jon
May 17th 2019, 5:19 pm
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Re: Sale of hotel & golf courses
But today the mayor made a statement on TV: canalcostatv .