Goodbye Sky TV
Jan 9th 2014, 7:18 pm
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Any I should have added, what affects Portugal south of the latitude of Lisbon will also affect those parts of Spain below it.
Jan 9th 2014, 7:35 pm
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
blimy heart attack i almost half agree with you - first time ever 
i am saying IF YOU CANT GET 5USA NOW ON YOUR DISH YOU AINT GOING TO GET BBC/ITV from 1/2 ...
BUT........AND ITS A BIG BUTT
IF YOU CAN GET 5USA it DONT MEAN YOU WILL STILL GET BBC/ITV from 1/2
because my ´´guess´´ is that 2E is a lot tighter then 2F (or 2G) it has a ´´magic uk spot beam´´
(i picked 5USA coz unlike 5 it aint elsewhere on 29e which might confuse people)
and you should know better - yes the E3000 is the same bus for 2E,F,G but they dont cover same frequency ranges some have west africa beams others ME beams .... i do belive that one of them has different solar panels then the other two
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...9153,39.506836
i am saying IF YOU CANT GET 5USA NOW ON YOUR DISH YOU AINT GOING TO GET BBC/ITV from 1/2 ...
BUT........AND ITS A BIG BUTT
IF YOU CAN GET 5USA it DONT MEAN YOU WILL STILL GET BBC/ITV from 1/2
because my ´´guess´´ is that 2E is a lot tighter then 2F (or 2G) it has a ´´magic uk spot beam´´
(i picked 5USA coz unlike 5 it aint elsewhere on 29e which might confuse people)
and you should know better - yes the E3000 is the same bus for 2E,F,G but they dont cover same frequency ranges some have west africa beams others ME beams .... i do belive that one of them has different solar panels then the other two
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...9153,39.506836
Luckily I know an awful lot of people who have benefited really well from Sats guidance and advice. Bloody good web site as well
Jan 9th 2014, 7:43 pm
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Jan 9th 2014, 8:01 pm
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
bit silly even saying that ????
1.its not ´´in the uk ´´ ECJ judgements are for the whole of europa
2. the ruling is what the ruling says - please read it carefully
ECJ C-403/08 and C-429/08 stated the following
´´a system of exclusive licences is also contrary to European Union
competition law if the licence agreements prohibit the supply of (decoder cards) to television
viewers who wish to watch the broadcasts outside the Member State for which the licence
is granted. ´´
´´national legislation which
prohibits the import, sale or use of foreign (decoder cards)is contrary to the freedom to
provide services and cannot be justified ´´
Jan 9th 2014, 8:04 pm
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
we IPTV people (and anyone in the trade who wants to ) have know this over a year ...what we didnt have until SES told us on 11/12 was date of changeover ..
Jan 10th 2014, 8:14 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
After watching some of the people being interviewed on BBC Breakfast this morning I am starting to think that losing Brit TV will not be so bad 
Jan 10th 2014, 8:22 am
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it really is terrible ,followed by BBC news and im said to say SKY news ...
i mostly watch EURONEWS for ´´news´´ followed by al jaz english ...
starting to remind me of the view screens on fahrenheit 451.....
or ´´the choco rations gone up ´´ in 1984 ..
Jan 10th 2014, 8:47 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
I am always wary of anyone who hides behind EU law to account for their actions.
The broadcaster owns the copywrite of their products and has every right to sue anyone who re broadcasts or allows access to their product for a fee.
Freesat and BBC via SKY are UK focussed and provided for FREE.
Charging for access ( IPTV ) is another matter.
The broadcaster owns the copywrite of their products and has every right to sue anyone who re broadcasts or allows access to their product for a fee.
Freesat and BBC via SKY are UK focussed and provided for FREE.
Charging for access ( IPTV ) is another matter.
Jan 10th 2014, 8:56 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
OK so you agree with me: as long as you have the right equipment, live in the right place, and have the right internet then all is good.
Unfortunately, this is Spain. Getting everything "right" is pretty rare here.
I'll stick with satellite, thank you. By the way, I have ALL UK tv, so please dont bother trying to sell me a upgrade for €1000, or another €39.95 per month internet tv package that doesnt work either.
Unfortunately, this is Spain. Getting everything "right" is pretty rare here.
I'll stick with satellite, thank you. By the way, I have ALL UK tv, so please dont bother trying to sell me a upgrade for €1000, or another €39.95 per month internet tv package that doesnt work either.
By the way, I have never tried to sell you anything. I only recommend from personal experience and just for the record, Europa Network would be one of those companies, they provide an excellent service.
By the by the way, the average peek time download speed in Spain is 6.92Mbps (the European average is 7.23Mbps).
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Jan 10th 2014, 9:10 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
I am always wary of anyone who hides behind EU law to account for their actions.
The broadcaster owns the copywrite of their products and has every right to sue anyone who re broadcasts or allows access to their product for a fee.
Freesat and BBC via SKY are UK focussed and provided for FREE.
Charging for access ( IPTV ) is another matter.
The broadcaster owns the copywrite of their products and has every right to sue anyone who re broadcasts or allows access to their product for a fee.
Freesat and BBC via SKY are UK focussed and provided for FREE.
Charging for access ( IPTV ) is another matter.
and eh... no any broadcaster has the right to SCRAMBLE its services for copyright purpose ....breaking that is a criminal offence
any service that is offered to ´´the public´´ is allowed to be rebroadcast...
and the ECJ ...THE HIGHEST COURT OF THE UK ..said you cant say only those in a part of europa can watch it ,not in others ....
do you think that we just started this without going into the law ....
what is illegal is to pre-load adverts ,like FILMON do
Jan 10th 2014, 9:18 am
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Well you don't have any choice but to stick with satellite do you
By the way, I have never tried to sell you anything. I only recommend from personal experience and just for the record, Europa Network would be one of those companies, they provide an excellent service.
By the by the way, the average peek time download speed in Spain is 6.92Mbps (the European average is 7.23Mbps).
By the way, I have never tried to sell you anything. I only recommend from personal experience and just for the record, Europa Network would be one of those companies, they provide an excellent service.
By the by the way, the average peek time download speed in Spain is 6.92Mbps (the European average is 7.23Mbps).
IPTV will be the only way for them to get UK PSB .... our worry in the trade is can we install 50,000 people overnight ????
and as for those with a complex dish,that needs upgrading,by time they are had meetings and sent emails back home ,a lot will have dropped out and get their IPTV boxes ...so not making it viable for the others ..
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Jan 10th 2014, 9:45 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Typical salesmans talk, panic customers into buying something they may not need by suggesting a shortage.
Jan 10th 2014, 9:48 am
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Re: Goodbye Sky TV
Bat are you saying that in almost very country there are networks that operate on subscriptions services are breaking the law.
Or are you just excusing those who steal signals that others have paid for ??
Or are you just excusing those who steal signals that others have paid for ??
Jan 10th 2014, 9:50 am
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mmmm what tsunami ????
even you friend GUY has said that most brits in spain will need a 1.9m €1500 dish and thats his figures ,and mine are a lot less conservative then that ...none of this is guess work ...the footprints are there now to test 5USA yes - good chance you can keep you normall dish
5USA No - get the €1500 for a dish bigger then a set of french windows ---
these are proven facts .... by members of the public to a non profit satellite group ...nowt to do with me
in Gibraltar and the algarve a €3000 2.4m dish dont work ...
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...9153,39.506836
Last edited by BAT7311; Jan 10th 2014 at 9:56 am.