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I could reply as I have had replies on here.

If you don't like my opinion don't read it, this phrase seems to work for a lot of others doesn't it?

Apparently people don't actually READ my posts as I keep having to repeat myself every 5 minutes!

I was merely trying to defend the OP if you bothered to read any of them, OP quite clearly felt in my words slammed and a bit bullied by some of the posts on here, what a shame that it had to come across that way - evidently it didn't to you. Everyone's different, life would be boring if we were all the same.

I'm just a bit old skool maybe, treat others as you'd like to be treated.

Quite clearly that makes me wrong, wrong and a bit more wrong on this forum.

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That is us to a tee Badge. The biggest challenge for us isn't moving to the other side of the world. It is living as a traditional family for the first time ever:nod: and ROMFT being at home, not away for weeks or months at a time:thumbup:

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I'll be waiting oldtimer:beer:

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and me popping over:lol:

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tis always a challenge, that is:sneaky::lol:

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:(:getcoat:

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:yield::kiss:

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What about support (payment) from Centrelink for babies? Don't take me wrong but I heard some couples rely upon the payment from Centrelink to raise babies as well as to support themselves!!!

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Surely not:ohmy: Thought this only happened in the UK?:confused:


:sneaky:;)

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Some of the people known to me have been claiming child care rebate and I understand there is no waiting period to claim this. This makes rewarding financial situation to migrants with many kids on PR:thumbsup:. Guess below is the link, please check

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/interne...are_rebate.htm

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I do feel for the 'we'll get by', 'you don't need money to sit on a beach', 'if you don't try....' gang as I think they must be really shocked by the cost of things when they arrive. We bring in a little over $100k (some employment/some investments) and have savings to fall back on but still gulp at the prices in supermarkets, the cost of eating out, beers, cars... Australia felt very different ten years ago when you could land with a backpack and walk into a job or flog your UK 2 bed house and move into a beach side property. It's not only a very expensive country to be due to sterling's weakness (very hard to set yourself up or buy property)- it's also hard to find work unless in a small sector of skilled roles - and it's also grown significantly more expensive due to it's own inflation led boom.

I feel sad for the OP as it must be very worrying to have your dreams decimated but I don't think blithely telling someone it will be alright should be done either. They, imo, don't have the cash to set themselves up with, don't appear to have high skill sets that will mean walking into a decent income here and could end up having a very hard time. I really hope they don't but fore-armed is fore-warned. I'd seriously be considering looking for a more financially viable plan.

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Absolutely right. No one wants new migrants to fail but if you do raise a concern then you get hammered. Interesting that most of the cautions are coming from people who are actually doing it at the moment and all of the rah rah is coming pretty much from people who havent done it but are hoping to make the move. I certainly wouldnt be moving a family of 4 kids on that money especially if they dont actually yet have a job to move to unless I had a lot of money in the bank.

There is nothing magical that will be conferred upon the kids by living in Aus - neither will they be disadvantaged at the end of the day in the same way that living in any other first world country is going to advantage/disadvantage them. Moving "for the kids" would be the last in any long list of reasons for me.

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I want to thank you, Butterfly, for your posts. I am almost entirely in agreement with you and really felt for the OP.

I haven't made the move yet and come to sites like this to get as much information as possible. I love reading the blogs and updates by people who've made the move and are having a brilliant time, but what I really want to read are the explanatory - 'this is what it's really like' posts. I am refusing to go into this with media-driven rose-tinted specs.

However, there are a small minority of posters who seem to feel the need to lay down their (invariably negative) opinion in such a way as to belittle and vilify those who have gone before - I have quite literally gasped at times at the way some have 'spoken' to others. There's no need to pretend everything in the garden is rosy but there are ways and means - I think some have engage mouth (or keyboard) before brain syndrome. Plus a lot of these same people don't even read the whole post before going off on one - I think that's why Butterfly had so many problems getting the point across!

I still like it though and the information is useful - just have to filter out the 'not very nice'-ness that occurs from the few - the majority genuinely want to help :thumbup:

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But this is a public forum, therefore you will get public opinions and the manner in which those opinions are given will be within the full specturm of the public, good and bad, and as long as they are within the rules of the site, then so be it. Some people are truthful and polite, some not so, but I think what you WILL find, is that those opinions offered by the various people on this site, are HONEST and their OPINIONS. No-one is telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't do, just giving their opinions, using the information provided.

I personally do not like to read bad language or rudeness in a forum. If I see it, I invariably will not read it, unless, within that post, there is something which is of interest to me. We all have choices. If I was so offended by the things I see here, I wouldn't be here (hence why I tend to stay out of the Locker Room:p sport offends me;))

The OP posted about having family and friends in Aus. While that is great as there will hopefully be a support network for them, asking their opinions, will likely come with a sugar coating. They are your family, and will no doubt want you there, so whatever they say to you, will likely be on the more positive side of things.

Asking strangers for their opinions on your situation, will more likely give you far more honest answers. Strangers have no ulterior motives, no emotional involvement. The answers given may not necessarily be right or wrong answers, as only you, as the questioner, can know that. However, anything that is NOT what you WANT to hear, will always be a negative. That is human nature. We just do not like being told something that is against our thoughts or feelings.

Take the information that has been given to you, both positive and negative and make an INFORMED decision.

Now, it's time for me to step down from my soap box and go to bed:o

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I have just read the whole thread and really don't see why you or Butterfly or OP feel that OP has been treated unpleasantly, bullied, sworn at or anything else. :confused: Truly I cannot see it.

She has asked what we think of moving over with four kids, hardly any savings and an expectation of getting a job paying $60k. And because most have replied that they will be doing it tough, OP has said we are all negative and she is going to a nicer forum. :rolleyes:

Could it be ... could it just be ... that the reason people have said that it will be tough was because a) OP asked and b) because it will be tough.

Perhaps that is it, perhaps that is the explanation and it has nothing to do with people wanting to bully newbies. Why are you assuming the worst of everyone.