sassenach

i cant honestly see why a fair majority of brits refuse to take out australian nationality .There are a lot more advantages to having a brit passport just out of the pure fact the amount of countries one can live and work in .I personally would never revoke british citizenship ,and a good friend of mine even flew back to the uk to have her baby to guarantee his citizenship .

CasG

FFS...all I said was that I wouldn't bother with renewing my British passport, if I got Aus Citizenship.

I would still be a British citizen due to the reciprocal agreement between the two countries.

You do not have to have a passport in your hand to be a Citizen of a country.

movetoperth

Is she british???

If so she could have saved herself a load of hassle and had it here.

Lynn

OzTennis

So for example, what would happen to a Brit married to an Australian and living in Australia and their wife/husband died or the couple were separated? The Tesco clubcard would allow the non-Australian to continue living there but Australian citizenship wouldn't. Yeah right!

Citizenship also has implications in terms of receiving medical treatment, social security payments, standing for public office, starting up some businesses, status of children etc, etc. It is also worth pointing out the recent law changes have made it 50% more difficult (residency requirement) to acquire (someone's comment about being given out in cornflakes packets).

OzTennis

Hutch

I'm not talking about the usefulness one way or the other - everyone can see that holding both passports is a useful thing. I also realise that people are people and will use the system to their or their family's own ends. What bothers me is the attitude towards it - particularly from the 'two years and then we're out of here' crowd who appear to want citizenship for the sole reason of giving their offspring a chance for an extended vacation in Australia. I think it demeans the whole process and Australian citizenship in general.

thebears

Right there with you Hutch.

DunRoaminTheUK

I agree that this is a bad thing for the integrity of Australian citizenship and what it means to actually be an Australian citizen.

We won't be doing this and we are 110% fully committed towards standing up and eventually being counted as Australian citizens. However, I'm not sure that this will make my wife and I Australian (in the strictest sense - but maybe time will change this? I don't know?) BUT our little baby boy will be 100% Australian and I'm quite proud of that fact. I think that we are giving him a chance that we never had and "belonging" to a country that is proud and not draped in apathy.

I am English (or Scottish as I was born there) and this fact is inextricable. I will always be English and I will always want to hang onto my British citizenship, heritage, origins and identity. It's part of me and where I came from and giving it up would be denying part of what actually makes me what I am.

If we end up with dual nationality (and we fully intend to) it doesn't mean that we will see Australia and being Australian as the inferior choice. Quite the contrary but what cannot be changed is that we will be forever English and I'm happy with that BUT just not happy to live here.

Gibbo

What bothers me is the attitude towards it - particularly from the 'two years and then we're out of here' crowd who appear to want citizenship for the sole reason of giving their offspring a chance for an extended vacation in Australia. I think it demeans the whole process and Australian citizenship in general.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more! I have been more than bothered with this attitude and it seems quite prevalent. Haven't commented before because it makes me really angry. If you feel no allegience to a country it is totally immoral to accept citizenship. Rant over!

MikeStanton

Of course I would.

Just one precondition.


A bullet in the head.


Why would anyone in their right mind trade citizenship in a remote sandbox for UK citizenship, which also provides access to a whole bunch of European countries.

Hutch

Maybe because said country is also home to braindead asinine whinge-bags with their heads stuck up their arses.

OzTennis

Circumstance One - because they would be less likely to come across many with your attitude - except those who migrate there and then spend the rest of their life moaning about the place and how it is so far behind the apparently, competitive, civilised world from whence they came and then returned.

OzTennis

don544

Amen to that. dom

Peter

You mispelled "Islamic Caliphates", which is what your weak and liberal Eurabia is turning into.

Enjoy being a foreigner in your own country mate.

sassenach

keep your shirt on i am only stating a fact ,you wont be able to go through the brit section with an aussie passport ,just trying to do you a favour and save you the time lineing up for the inevitable grilling

sassenach

she is british ,i dont know what the legal implications are for future offspring of a child that is entitled to british citizenship even if born in australia and for this reason she may have decided to have the child in the uk