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leeleelee Jun 29th 2011 10:31 pm

WORKING IN THE MINES
 
Hi
I am in the UK at the minute and have been looking into working in the mines. I have had some experience in small wheel loaders and I used to drive tanks in the Army:thumbsup:
But I'm not qualified for the big beasts there driving, some companies in Oz(perth) offer courses which take 2 weeks for everything you need to work in the mines.
I'm thinking of flying out and doing the course and trying to get a job offer when I'm out there?
Doe's anybody have experience of the mines?
Is it a good idea to fly out and do the course, suppose it shows I'm bloody keen

Your advice needed!:unsure:

renth Jun 29th 2011 10:41 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
Do you have Aus citizenship or a visa to work here, that will be the main hurdle?

Secondly, if you do the 2 week course you still won't get a job on he mines as they only want people with experience. You need to know someone on the inside to get a mining job.

If you don't know an insider what you need to do is get a entry level job as a trades assistant, geo offsider that kind of thing and after a few months when you have proved you are not dickhead and can handle the conditions that's the point you can get offered the training to operate the machinery.

leeleelee Jun 29th 2011 10:47 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
It just sounds as though there crying out for operators?. I,m a plumber by trade but it seemed a faster way to get to Oz and to tell you the truth I'm f**'"ing sick of it(plumbing). Where off to the Expo in leeds on the 9th july so should get some good info there.

So your saying its a bit clicky the mines then?:blink:

renth Jun 29th 2011 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9465828)
It just sounds as though there crying out for operators?. I,m a plumber by trade but it seemed a faster way to get to Oz and to tell you the truth I'm f**'"ing sick of it(plumbing). Where off to the Expo in leeds on the 9th july so should get some good info there.

So your saying its a bit clicky the mines then?:blink:

Mines are crying out for operators but the ratio of time wasting dickheads who "wanna get a job on the moines" and actual good staff is huge. It really does help if you know someone on the inside who will vouch for you or going my path of getting an entry level pos and moving up from the inside.

As a plumber you'll be quids in here in Aus (from what I've heard) but there could be issues with getting your plumbing "ticket" once you are here. It's crazy, you do all the skills assessments, get the visa then come over and find you can't do your trade because you don't have the local quals. I'm pretty sure plumbing is one of these trades.

FYI, I used to work on the mines in the late 80's. Tried to get a job from Perth and in the end had to go door knocking in Kalgoorlie - got a job the same day! - in the 6 months I was there I saw loads of wannabes come and go.

leeleelee Jun 29th 2011 10:58 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
It is I've looked!
2 years at college for something I have nearly done all my working life:sneaky:

renth Jun 29th 2011 11:01 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9465842)
It is I've looked!
2 years at college for something I have nearly done all my working life:sneaky:

Welcome to Australia!

Amazulu Jun 30th 2011 1:01 am

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9465800)
Hi
I am in the UK at the minute and have been looking into working in the mines. I have had some experience in small wheel loaders and I used to drive tanks in the Army:thumbsup:
But I'm not qualified for the big beasts there driving, some companies in Oz(perth) offer courses which take 2 weeks for everything you need to work in the mines.
I'm thinking of flying out and doing the course and trying to get a job offer when I'm out there?
Doe's anybody have experience of the mines?
Is it a good idea to fly out and do the course, suppose it shows I'm bloody keen

Your advice needed!:unsure:

Are you an Australian permanent resident or citizen?
I would say that you would be wasting your time unfortunately. Just doing a course will not get you into the industry. From what I see, people who chase these kind of jobs by doing courses off their own back get nowhere. Others get hired, get paid to do the courses and walk into a job. Don't know why this is, but it is. Mining companies do need a lot of new workers all the time, but unskilled jobs are in huge demand. Do you have any trade skills? If not, maybe look at getting some? Qualified tradesmen have it easier.

Another thing to remember is that the big mining companies are moving over to driverless trucks. I work for Rio Tinto, and they are operating them right now on a mine in WA. The project I am working on is going the same way. Driverless trains are also coming in. Soon they will have driverless plant as well. They are saving money by doing this, it's just that they are sick of dealing with militant unions and staff, and having to deal with staff who don't give a shit and take the piss.

leeleelee Jun 30th 2011 8:52 am

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
Yeah I,m a plumber, gas fitter, pipefitter any contacts would be useful, cheers:fingerscrossed:

warbs4 Jul 2nd 2011 12:36 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9466434)
Yeah I,m a plumber, gas fitter, pipefitter any contacts would be useful, cheers:fingerscrossed:

You need to get yourself over here and get a job doing what you know - plumbing, probably in Perth, assuming you're coming to WA.

Once you've got some local experience, look to the large plumbing contractors who build the camps. Beg for a job with them and you'll make serious money doing a 3/1 or 4/1 roster. Then you'll have a chance of driving a truck. :confused:

Me? I'd stick to plumbing, good supervisors are getting upto $200k. I've been told of a plumbing mgr on >$300k for BHP.

Having said all that, there are loads of plumbers chasing work out on site. Most aren't cut out for it, it's a tough gig.

Good luck

leeleelee Jul 2nd 2011 1:08 pm

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Cheers buddy!

who is BHP?

warbs4 Jul 2nd 2011 1:25 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9470618)
Cheers buddy!

who is BHP?

No problem, BHP Billiton - the biggest miner along with Rio Tinto

leeleelee Jul 2nd 2011 1:34 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
Am I likely to get a job out there being a POM tradesman?. I' ready for working hard, just carnt wait to get out there its knackered here:(

warbs4 Jul 2nd 2011 2:03 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9470639)
Am I likely to get a job out there being a POM tradesman?. I' ready for working hard, just carnt wait to get out there its knackered here:(

Easy, it's all about attitude. My experience, no-one gives a rats arse about where you're from, but p'haps I've had sheltered time over here.
We have 3 welders working for us, 2 English, 1 Aussie - one of them takes his sweet ass time on every job - guess which one?

leeleelee Jul 2nd 2011 2:10 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 
NEED A PIPEFITTER LOL!

Australia_bound? Jul 2nd 2011 2:59 pm

Re: WORKING IN THE MINES
 

Originally Posted by leeleelee (Post 9465800)
Hi
I am in the UK at the minute and have been looking into working in the mines. I have had some experience in small wheel loaders and I used to drive tanks in the Army:thumbsup:
But I'm not qualified for the big beasts there driving, some companies in Oz(perth) offer courses which take 2 weeks for everything you need to work in the mines.
I'm thinking of flying out and doing the course and trying to get a job offer when I'm out there?
Doe's anybody have experience of the mines?
Is it a good idea to fly out and do the course, suppose it shows I'm bloody keen

Your advice needed!:unsure:

I live in a mining town. See plenty of people head up here with dreams of landing a job with one of the many mining companies & end up heading back down south well out of pocket.
Is all who you know, not what or being Indigenous is a massive bonus.
Having the correct license and no experience won't get you anywhere to be 100% honest.
Would say first step would be to get a PR visa and take it from there.


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