Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
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Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Hi Guys,
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
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Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by jo_west
Hi Guys,
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
#3
Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by jo_west
Hi Guys,
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
#4
Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by jo_west
Hi Guys,
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
14 months since moving to australia, Gold Coast, and I am not doing too bad, but my partner who was doing the following trades in the UK
Gas Engineer
Kitchen Fitting (Which includes Carpenter, plumbing, electrics etc)
Carpenter
Plumber
And here for licensing reasons can only be license for a Gas Fitter, which if you know the Gold coast there is nothing around. He needs work, and now is considering going back to the UK, where he knows he can work fulltime for 3/4 months, but that just defeats the reasons for moving to Australia :-(.
Does anyone know of getting around this licensing, cause at the end of the day he can do those trades, but for one reason or another cannot get the license to do that here. What cracks me up is that Australia is crying out for trademens, but make it near on impossible to get the license.
Or does anyone know of any gas work on the gold coast or brisbane?
Besides that Australia is a lovely place to live, we just need a break for the
system a little.
Any Suggestions ???????????????
Jo
Andy
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Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by andicee
Unfortunately Jo, without the proper qualifications, whether or not he is able to do the work or not, he just shouldn't be doing this type of work. As a qualified sparky I have seen no end of kitchens fitted where the electrics and/or gas and/or plumbing have been to such a low standard that the whole lot has been condemned. Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting for one minute that OH is a cowboy, but I say again; without the proper qualifications to work on electrics or gas he really shouldn't be touching either. Also, without the qualifications he has no way of issuing a proper test and inspection or installation certificate that will stand up in a court of law should anything go wrong!
Andy
Andy
It caused me a few problems when I applied as I'd been in a supervisory role for a couple of years still on the tools yet not often enough for an immediate licence.
Now I've been here a few years I think this system is a far better one than the U.K as the "gis a job mate I can do that" blokes are out on their ears. The idea of licencing also makes each trade fully accountable by law for any defective work for a number of years. QBSA do prosecute dodgy tradesmen so the system does work.
That said if the OP's O/H wanted to fly under the radar of the QBSA all that is necessary is for them to price each job they undertake at less than 1K including materials. It's perfectly legal as work under that amount does not have to be done by licenced trades [Plumbing and Electrics are exceptions and still have to be done by qualified licenced people irrespective of job cost]
We have a bloke up here that tiles without a licence he only does small jobs and prices them at less than 1k bigger jobs he splits into individual rooms.
A word of warning though; without a valid QBSA licence builders and contractors are not obliged to pay you a cent, most are aware of this and more unscrupulous ones often set an unlicensed bloke on and then not pay him knowing he has no legal recourse.
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Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
just a quick question, do you need a license if you are a carpenter in queensland? even if i have had my skills assesed by tra?
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
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Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by kkilnan
just a quick question, do you need a license if you are a carpenter in queensland? even if i have had my skills assesed by tra?
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
http://jobguide.thegoodguides.com.au....cfm?jobid=720
At the bottom is a list of states and details of places and professional bodies you can contact for information regarding working in each state.
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Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by cresta57
It caused me a few problems when I applied as I'd been in a supervisory role for a couple of years still on the tools yet not often enough for an immediate licence.
Now I've been here a few years I think this system is a far better one than the U.K as the "gis a job mate I can do that" blokes are out on their ears. The idea of licencing also makes each trade fully accountable by law for any defective work for a number of years.
Now I've been here a few years I think this system is a far better one than the U.K as the "gis a job mate I can do that" blokes are out on their ears. The idea of licencing also makes each trade fully accountable by law for any defective work for a number of years.
#9
Re: Why is it so hard to work in Australia for a trademan
Originally Posted by kkilnan
just a quick question, do you need a license if you are a carpenter in queensland? even if i have had my skills assesed by tra?
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
what about other states? does the same apply?
kevin
The TRA is just for the purpose of verifying skills to migrate once you get here you have to jump through a few more hoops before you make it to fully licenced tradie.
Other states do differ in their approach to licencing.
Last edited by cresta57; Dec 15th 2006 at 11:45 am.