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Old Dec 20th 2010, 9:41 am
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Today I was comparing salaries in OZ(Sydney), UK(London) & USA(New York) on payscale.com.
Strangely the salaries paid in OZ is much lesser(even with the Higher AUD value) it is just not comparable to what is paid in USA or UK? do you know why? is it that cost of living is more cheaper in OZ than these 2 cities? the max rate that I got is Sydney=114K, New York=145K & London=60K

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The max rate for what?

There will be many IT people earning much more than 114k in Sydney, and certainly plenty earning much more than 60k in London.
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And many earning a lot less

A 40k job in the Uk is 100 in Oz. If exchange rate is 1.6 thats still more so don't get OP's point either
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Well, its *not rate* its *Salary*. the maximum range of salary is not exactly comparable in all the 3 cities. just wanted to know the reasons why they are not comparable? and do you know what are all the factors that matter to get better packages?
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Well, its *not rate* its *Salary*. the maximum range of salary is not exactly comparable in all the 3 cities. just wanted to know the reasons why they are not comparable? and do you know what are all the factors that matter to get better packages?
Well there's little point comparing your numbers because they don't seem accurate if you think these are max salaries. Surely it depends what role you're looking at...you haven't said.
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Well there's little point comparing your numbers because they don't seem accurate if you think these are max salaries. Surely it depends what role you're looking at...you haven't said.
I was comparing for the IT consultant on permanent role with similar certification(IBM Certified solution developer), Qualification(Master of Computer Applications) & Experience(7 years)
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Originally Posted by ahmedwaseem2000
Today I was comparing salaries in OZ(Sydney), UK(London) & USA(New York) on payscale.com.
Strangely the salaries paid in OZ is much lesser(even with the Higher AUD value) it is just not comparable to what is paid in USA or UK? do you know why? is it that cost of living is more cheaper in OZ than these 2 cities? the max rate that I got is Sydney=114K, New York=145K & London=60K

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Have you considered the tax rates? The take home pay will depend on the tax rate as well.

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Well, salaries in 'comparative' professional IT roles in London and NYC probably are higher than Sydney.

They are probably the worlds top 2 financial centres and that is where the money is. Certainly in London. So that will skew the overall picture somewhat.

Look outside IT roles within the financial sector and perhaps salaries are more in line with each other.

Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by ahmedwaseem2000
Today I was comparing salaries in OZ(Sydney), UK(London) & USA(New York) on payscale.com.
Strangely the salaries paid in OZ is much lesser(even with the Higher AUD value) it is just not comparable to what is paid in USA or UK? do you know why? is it that cost of living is more cheaper in OZ than these 2 cities? the max rate that I got is Sydney=114K, New York=145K & London=60K

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I was comparing IT salarys a couple of weeks ago as I will be heading back to the uk shortly and found that aus paid a lot more than I would be earning in the uk.

Going back to the uk will be a pay cut for me so I am unsure how you have come to the opposite conclusion
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Originally Posted by dave99
I was comparing IT salarys a couple of weeks ago as I will be heading back to the uk shortly and found that aus paid a lot more than I would be earning in the uk.

Going back to the uk will be a pay cut for me so I am unsure how you have come to the opposite conclusion
I was verifying in payscale.com. its more based on surveys conducted in different cities than any specific person.
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Ever since I can remember similar IT jobs pay 20-40% less in Oz than in Europe or North America. This problem is even more acute now with the cost of living so high in Oz.
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Because IT is not as required in Sydney, and has a lot of people after the same jobs.

A "sellers market" ..

Perth has good salaries for mining. London not so. Strange huh?
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I was comparing IT salarys a couple of weeks ago as I will be heading back to the uk shortly and found that aus paid a lot more than I would be earning in the uk.

Going back to the uk will be a pay cut for me so I am unsure how you have come to the opposite conclusion
What's your area of expertise? Even in the midst of the recession a lot of people I know in tech were commanding higher rates/salary in London than comparable roles in Oz (Sydney/Melbourne)
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What's your area of expertise? Even in the midst of the recession a lot of people I know in tech were commanding higher rates/salary in London than comparable roles in Oz (Sydney/Melbourne)
my area of expertise is in Data warehouse. I have been working on this for around 7 years now with a masters degree(Master of computer application) & IBM certifications.

Can any one shed some light on the factors that matter for the better pay package? I know in India, the factors could be how well you do in the interview, your qualification, how desperate the company is to hire you matters when they are deciding on the pay package.


There is a general practice in India that one can show an offer from a different employer and demand more from the one currently interviewing. is this the practice in OZ as well?

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Originally Posted by ahmedwaseem2000
my area of expertise is in Data warehouse. I have been working on this for around 7 years now with a masters degree(Master of computer application) & IBM certifications.

Can any one shed some light on the factors that matter for the better pay package? I know in India, the factors could be how well you do in the interview, your qualification, how desperate the company is to hire you matters when they are deciding on the pay package.


There is a general practice in India that one can show an offer from a different employer and demand more from the one currently interviewing. is this the practice in OZ as well?
At least we know what job you do now. Forget payscale or whatever. Look on jobserve.com.au for DW jobs and speak to some agents. What they'll pay is what they'll pay though. You can definitely negotiate but if they offer 100k don't expect to get 150 ;-). And if its not enough to live (Oz is very expensive) then you'll be better off somewhere else. Contracting might be an idea too.

What they look at here is local experience and no. of yrs experience. You don't have the 1st one so to get it you won't be able to negotiate much at all. Thats just the way it is. They're dead funny about the local experience - especially if you're from india.
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