Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
#32
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Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
(Everybody in Australia is required to vote, unlike the UK which had a voter turnout of only 62% in the 2005 general election)
(And 250 thousand is a quarter of a million?)
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#33
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Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
I've been over-charged, I've been given wrong change. I've had bad service and I've had appalling service* but I've never had an apology from an Ozzie.
What is it about their psyche that doesn't let them say "sorry".
(*Telstra - and still ongoing! How long does it take to sort out the fact that we only want one telephone number ?!
The Telstra customer services guy (ha ha) had the nerve to tell me "what I'm going to do for you" as he promised to refund the overpayment of $$$s due to their mistake. But never an apology!!)
What is it about their psyche that doesn't let them say "sorry".
(*Telstra - and still ongoing! How long does it take to sort out the fact that we only want one telephone number ?!
The Telstra customer services guy (ha ha) had the nerve to tell me "what I'm going to do for you" as he promised to refund the overpayment of $$$s due to their mistake. But never an apology!!)
#34
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Dude, the Rudd Govt. was elected by the majority of the Australian public. If you didn't vote Rudd, fair enough.. but that makes you a minority. You're entitled to your opinion of course - good luck with that.
(Everybody in Australia is required to vote, unlike the UK which had a voter turnout of only 62% in the 2005 general election)
(And 250 thousand is a quarter of a million?)
(Everybody in Australia is required to vote, unlike the UK which had a voter turnout of only 62% in the 2005 general election)
(And 250 thousand is a quarter of a million?)
I don't mid the apology although I do find it a little shallow, especially in the light of how little the government and Australian people in general care about the original owners of this land.
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Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
I've been over-charged, I've been given wrong change. I've had bad service and I've had appalling service* but I've never had an apology from an Ozzie.
What is it about their psyche that doesn't let them say "sorry".
(*Telstra - and still ongoing! How long does it take to sort out the fact that we only want one telephone number ?!
The Telstra customer services guy (ha ha) had the nerve to tell me "what I'm going to do for you" as he promised to refund the overpayment of $$$s due to their mistake. But never an apology!!)
What is it about their psyche that doesn't let them say "sorry".
(*Telstra - and still ongoing! How long does it take to sort out the fact that we only want one telephone number ?!
The Telstra customer services guy (ha ha) had the nerve to tell me "what I'm going to do for you" as he promised to refund the overpayment of $$$s due to their mistake. But never an apology!!)
#37
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Dude, the Rudd Govt. was elected by the majority of the Australian public. If you didn't vote Rudd, fair enough.. but that makes you a minority. You're entitled to your opinion of course - good luck with that.
(Everybody in Australia is required to vote, unlike the UK which had a voter turnout of only 62% in the 2005 general election)
(And 250 thousand is a quarter of a million?)
(Everybody in Australia is required to vote, unlike the UK which had a voter turnout of only 62% in the 2005 general election)
(And 250 thousand is a quarter of a million?)
#38
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Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
57.4% voted someone else in preference.
If you didn't vote Rudd, you were actually in the majority, not the minority.
And getting technical... 43,957 actually voted for Rudd in his electorate, 12,886,857 voted for other candidates of all parties
#39
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Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
okay, my bad. sorry
#40
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
For the record I thought it was BLOODY FANTASTIC. I think the "something we did not do" is a cop out. Heaps of Australians alive who "have done" dodgy stuff to the Aboriginals, and some that still do.
As a nation we are getting better and better as we should do - and saying sorry was one step on this road. Everywhere I looked people were very happy it had been said....even saw tears for some people on that day....shame you felt differently....but on we march...
Saying this I feel the comments from some British people they are better at this stuff disappointing - a lot of us have lived there and we can see first hand that every country struggles with this....I know most British are balanced on this but the odd few just assume that British are on average less racist than Australians....guess that's what some of the media there has always told them so they arrive here with that prejudice already built in.
#41
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
I personally think Telstra have it written in their staff handbook NOT to apologise as that admits they've cocked up.......We were ready to contact the TIO and get compensation for the debacle we had setting up our phone but they managed to connect us with hours to go before the compensation deadline - they are just canny at their business.
All I wanted was an apology (took weeks to get our phone connected and we are still in White Pages under the wrong address cos of their system) but none was forthcoming........ho hum.
All I wanted was an apology (took weeks to get our phone connected and we are still in White Pages under the wrong address cos of their system) but none was forthcoming........ho hum.
#42
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Go to Palm Island, Mount Isa, Yarrabah, Nhulunbuy, Alice, or even some areas of Sydney, and ask if that sorry has helped.
Yes, I have a VERY dim view of Australia's aboriginal policy. I have been to many of these places involved, and can tell you that "sorry" didn't help one iota.
#43
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Sorry to Aboriginal people means diddly squat when it is not backed up with policy designed to help them. The sorry was to make white city folk feel better, and to appease the leaders of the aboriginal community.
Go to Palm Island, Mount Isa, Yarrabah, Nhulunbuy, Alice, or even some areas of Sydney, and ask if that sorry has helped.
Yes, I have a VERY dim view of Australia's aboriginal policy. I have been to many of these places involved, and can tell you that "sorry" didn't help one iota.
Go to Palm Island, Mount Isa, Yarrabah, Nhulunbuy, Alice, or even some areas of Sydney, and ask if that sorry has helped.
Yes, I have a VERY dim view of Australia's aboriginal policy. I have been to many of these places involved, and can tell you that "sorry" didn't help one iota.
Evidence of failure cannot all be attributed to racism. Structural, cultural, historical racism, geographic and other issues come into play as well. Immigrants who just use the issue to try to make themselves feel superior don't seem like the type who will be bothered helping Aboriginals anyway....a lot of them seem more interested in getting a fuzzy superior glow for themselves rather than actually caring.
Last edited by fish.01; Jun 24th 2009 at 12:38 am.
#44
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Back to the OP . . . I find that they never say sorry if they bump into you, you just get a dirty look!! I say sorry even when they bump into me. I also find that they don't get the whole 'buggy' thing - i.e. If i've said excuse me 3 times, i kinda need you to move so I can get the buggy through.
#45
Re: Why do Ozzies never say sorry?
Back to the OP . . . I find that they never say sorry if they bump into you, you just get a dirty look!! I say sorry even when they bump into me. I also find that they don't get the whole 'buggy' thing - i.e. If i've said excuse me 3 times, i kinda need you to move so I can get the buggy through.