why Australia giving PR
Jul 6th 2014, 5:37 am
#31
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Re: why Australia giving PR
I sort of see what you are trying to say, but to say it in such a way to say Australian employers are prejudice against 'Pommies' as you say, displays a bit of an inferiority complex. Foreigners might have been a better way of putting it.
Its just self protection. The work market in Oz is not a moving pool and doesn't have the size as in a place like London. People naturally protect their positions when there's little else to move on to. 'Pommie' Aussie whatever.
For the record. My management in Oz is made up of Saffas and Brits. No Aussies up top.
Its just self protection. The work market in Oz is not a moving pool and doesn't have the size as in a place like London. People naturally protect their positions when there's little else to move on to. 'Pommie' Aussie whatever.
For the record. My management in Oz is made up of Saffas and Brits. No Aussies up top.
Coles has probably got more Brits in top positions at its head office than locals.
My wife, muslim and Indonesian has never had a problem moving up the ladder at one of the big 4 auditors.
Jul 6th 2014, 9:10 am
#32
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Re: why Australia giving PR
I sort of see what you are trying to say, but to say it in such a way to say Australian employers are prejudice against 'Pommies' as you say, displays a bit of an inferiority complex. Foreigners might have been a better way of putting it.
Its just self protection. The work market in Oz is not a moving pool and doesn't have the size as in a place like London. People naturally protect their positions when there's little else to move on to. 'Pommie' Aussie whatever.
For the record. My management in Oz is made up of Saffas and Brits. No Aussies up top.
Its just self protection. The work market in Oz is not a moving pool and doesn't have the size as in a place like London. People naturally protect their positions when there's little else to move on to. 'Pommie' Aussie whatever.
For the record. My management in Oz is made up of Saffas and Brits. No Aussies up top.
But I do think that the Oz government/DIAC have painted a very rosy picture of the Oz job market in their marketing drives here in the UK. Maybe a bit more realism should be included to enable people to make more informed decisions about moving to Oz: which is ironic as I see straight talking as an Aussie trait, a good trait.
They don't need to market the country itself, it does it on its own.
Jul 6th 2014, 9:40 pm
#33
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Re: why Australia giving PR
Never had a problem myself and anything that has been said to me has been friendly banter.
Coles has probably got more Brits in top positions at its head office than locals.
My wife, muslim and Indonesian has never had a problem moving up the ladder at one of the big 4 auditors.
Coles has probably got more Brits in top positions at its head office than locals.
My wife, muslim and Indonesian has never had a problem moving up the ladder at one of the big 4 auditors.
Jul 7th 2014, 9:44 am
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Re: why Australia giving PR
It seems to me that some people struggle - others don't.
If we conducted a huge survey we might find out which areas are hard for new migrants - but perhaps it would have changed by now.
Apart from Polly, I don't know anyone who had to take a job at a 'lower' level - or had difficulties in matching experience and I am taking Polly's statement literally..
It's a shame Polly because in some ways, govt work shares quite a lot of skill-sets and culture.
If we conducted a huge survey we might find out which areas are hard for new migrants - but perhaps it would have changed by now.
Apart from Polly, I don't know anyone who had to take a job at a 'lower' level - or had difficulties in matching experience and I am taking Polly's statement literally..
It's a shame Polly because in some ways, govt work shares quite a lot of skill-sets and culture.
Hardly unique to Australia though.
Jul 7th 2014, 9:51 am
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Re: why Australia giving PR
Exactly where the work to replace that will be is anyone's guess.
Jul 22nd 2014, 1:05 am
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Re: why Australia giving PR
+1 to this
Jul 22nd 2014, 10:22 am
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Re: why Australia giving PR
I have noticed people are having tough time in finding jobs (IT related) which are really scare at the moment. I am wondering why Australia is still inviting and giving PR to the foreigners.
Anyone with PR will be eligible for social benefits after town years which will further put load on public purse. We are having serious issue with immigration here in UK but cant do any thing due to EU obligations but I wonder why Asutralia is doing this ?
any thoughts ..
Disclaimer : I am migrant myself .
Anyone with PR will be eligible for social benefits after town years which will further put load on public purse. We are having serious issue with immigration here in UK but cant do any thing due to EU obligations but I wonder why Asutralia is doing this ?
any thoughts ..
Disclaimer : I am migrant myself .
Jul 22nd 2014, 11:35 am
#38
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Re: why Australia giving PR
I was going to say foreigners but I don't regard or feel myself as foreign in Oz and I don't regard Aussies as foreigners in the UK, probably due to our very close cultural ties and shared history. More like your favourite cousin who you like taking the mick out of.
But I do think that the Oz government/DIAC have painted a very rosy picture of the Oz job market in their marketing drives here in the UK. Maybe a bit more realism should be included to enable people to make more informed decisions about moving to Oz: which is ironic as I see straight talking as an Aussie trait, a good trait.
They don't need to market the country itself, it does it on its own.
But I do think that the Oz government/DIAC have painted a very rosy picture of the Oz job market in their marketing drives here in the UK. Maybe a bit more realism should be included to enable people to make more informed decisions about moving to Oz: which is ironic as I see straight talking as an Aussie trait, a good trait.
They don't need to market the country itself, it does it on its own.
For anyone thinking of emigrating to Australia (or any country), I'd advise doing some independent research re job availability. I've never trusted a government department to tell me what is and isn't right for me, and I certainly wouldn't take their word when it came to a major undertaking like emigrating.
