Whither clean green NZ?
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Whither clean green NZ?
Reported in today's NZ Herald:
"New Zealand is backing an American move to pressure European countries into accepting genetically modified food and crops."
"New Zealand is backing an American move to pressure European countries into accepting genetically modified food and crops."
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by Slippers
Reported in today's NZ Herald:
"New Zealand is backing an American move to pressure European countries into accepting genetically modified food and crops."
Reported in today's NZ Herald:
"New Zealand is backing an American move to pressure European countries into accepting genetically modified food and crops."
Cheers - Don
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by pleasancefamily
So you're against (say) GM rice that improves the nutrition of rice eaters in some of the poorest parts of the old?
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So you're against (say) GM rice that improves the nutrition of rice eaters in some of the poorest parts of the old?
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When I came to NZ, the country was promoting itself as GE free under the slogan "100% Pure". Now it seems the govt is changing its mind.
Companies pushing GM crops are not motivated by a desire to alleviate malnourishment in the world's poor.
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by Slippers
When I came to NZ, the country was promoting itself as GE free under the slogan "100% Pure". Now it seems the govt is changing its mind.
Companies pushing GM crops are not motivated by a desire to alleviate malnourishment in the world's poor.
When I came to NZ, the country was promoting itself as GE free under the slogan "100% Pure". Now it seems the govt is changing its mind.
Companies pushing GM crops are not motivated by a desire to alleviate malnourishment in the world's poor.
Cheers - Don
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by pleasancefamily
Don't agree with you, Slipper. It's giving new crops an advantage over existing competitors that will make the GM seeds sell more (which is what the companies pushing GM crops want). That advantage can include higher yield, improved nutritional characteristics, reduced requirement for treatment by pesticides - etc. Are you saying these 3 elements are undesirable?
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Don't agree with you, Slipper. It's giving new crops an advantage over existing competitors that will make the GM seeds sell more (which is what the companies pushing GM crops want). That advantage can include higher yield, improved nutritional characteristics, reduced requirement for treatment by pesticides - etc. Are you saying these 3 elements are undesirable?
Cheers - Don
Companies pushing GM crops are motivated by getting a monoploy over crops used and then applying the stranglehold. As you will see.
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by Slippers
Companies pushing GM crops are motivated by getting a monoploy over crops used and then applying the stranglehold. As you will see.
Companies pushing GM crops are motivated by getting a monoploy over crops used and then applying the stranglehold. As you will see.
Don't get me wrong. The technology itself has the potential to bring many of the benefits Don mentions, but to think that these benefits will materialise from the hands of corrupt, unaccountable corporations is wishful thinking, to put it mildly.
If the NZ govt is helping the Bush junta (coincidentally - yeah right! - the recipient of millions of dollars from Monsanto) to pressurise the EU, they should be ashamed of themselves. I can only think it's the price they've been asked to pay to get the US-NZ free-trade agreement they're after.
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Re: Whither clean green NZ?
Originally posted by jseni01d
Don't get me wrong. The technology itself has the potential to bring many of the benefits Don mentions, but to think that these benefits will materialise from the hands of corrupt, unaccountable corporations is wishful thinking, to put it mildly.
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Don't get me wrong. The technology itself has the potential to bring many of the benefits Don mentions, but to think that these benefits will materialise from the hands of corrupt, unaccountable corporations is wishful thinking, to put it mildly.
Cheers,
John
Look at the privatisation of the UK water utilities. The doomsday merchants said the privatised companies would squeeze all the profits they could out of the system and it would be a terrible outcome for the UK population. Instead of which, there has been massive capital investment, end result cleaner water, cheaper water, better environmental control, less water leakage.
There can be a strong case made for close supervision of GM crop development.
Cheers - Don