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tallbloke67 Dec 20th 2006 6:44 pm

When to hand notice in?
 
Hello All

I am struggling to decide when to hand my notice in. I would like to leave my job mid Feb as we are to be in Perth not long after, but I hate my job and yearn for the day to be in Oz. If I hand my notice in tomorrow, Friday, it will lift a great deal of pressure off of my shoulders.

I am required to give four weeks notice but I would prefer to give six as this gives them time to find a replacement. I have had one interview and am having the second in the new year.

Martin

kiwi_child Dec 20th 2006 7:00 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Hello All

I am struggling to decide when to hand my notice in. I would like to leave my job mid Feb as we are to be in Perth not long after, but I hate my job and yearn for the day to be in Oz. If I hand my notice in tomorrow, Friday, it will lift a great deal of pressure off of my shoulders.

I am required to give four weeks notice but I would prefer to give six as this gives them time to find a replacement. I have had one interview and am having the second in the new year.

Martin

Hmmm...you are right on the xmas/ny holiday period so they won't gain advantage as u think from 6wks notice. Also they could say thanks and decide you will leave in 4 weeks not 6.

I would give them 4 weeks notice in mid jan and if queried about it explain you wanted to have all the i's dotted and t's crossed before you gave your notice.

If tho you're not fussed whether you finish up end of jan or mid feb, then no problem giving them notice now.

How long have you been in this job? What real advantage to you is there in giving more notice? You still won't be leaving till mid feb either way. Have you booked/paid for your tickets to oz yet? Is everything confirmed?

CathnPaul Dec 20th 2006 7:04 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child
Hmmm...you are right on the xmas/ny holiday period so they won't gain advantage as u think from 6wks notice. Also they could say thanks and decide you will leave in 4 weeks not 6.

I would give them 4 weeks notice in mid jan and if queried about it explain you wanted to have all the i's dotted and t's crossed before you gave your notice.

If tho you're not fussed whether you finish up end of jan or mid feb, then no problem giving them notice now.

How long have you been in this job? What real advantage to you is there in giving more notice? You still won't be leaving till mid feb either way. Have you booked/paid for your tickets to oz yet? Is everything confirmed?

I agree with kiwi - but what are the interviews you are talking about??? are you not actually going to oz yet??

tallbloke67 Dec 20th 2006 7:10 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by CathnPaul
I agree with kiwi - but what are the interviews you are talking about??? are you not actually going to oz yet??


I have had telephone interviews thus far with one company. It seems very promising and the recruit agent is getting positive feedback from the company. No tickets as yet as we exchange end of Jan with house so until then we are in 'limbo'. There is a sense of Deja Vu here again as we were in limbo with not putting the house on the market and not having the visa. Oh well all that has now been resolved. Still only two weeks until I hand my notice in.

Thanks for your advice all.

Martin

CathnPaul Dec 20th 2006 7:29 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
I have had telephone interviews thus far with one company. It seems very promising and the recruit agent is getting positive feedback from the company. No tickets as yet as we exchange end of Jan with house so until then we are in 'limbo'. There is a sense of Deja Vu here again as we were in limbo with not putting the house on the market and not having the visa. Oh well all that has now been resolved. Still only two weeks until I hand my notice in.

Thanks for your advice all.

Martin

Martin - sorry i am being a bit dense here - is the recruitment agency in the uk or oz?? I can appreciate you completing on the house and finishing work - are you finishing work to go immediately to oz (hopefully) and thats the interview your talking about??

tallbloke67 Dec 20th 2006 7:37 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by CathnPaul
Martin - sorry i am being a bit dense here - is the recruitment agency in the uk or oz?? I can appreciate you completing on the house and finishing work - are you finishing work to go immediately to oz (hopefully) and thats the interview your talking about??

Hello Cath n Paul

The agency is in Oz. We are fininshing work and coming straight over, if the fog ever lifts! Yes the interview is for the job in Perth.

CathnPaul Dec 20th 2006 7:40 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Hello Cath n Paul

The agency is in Oz. We are fininshing work and coming straight over, if the fog ever lifts! Yes the interview is for the job in Perth.

lol....now I can answer properly.lol.... I would get the notice handed in giving the 6 weeks notice - it will be a feather in your cap even though they will lose 2 weeks over xmas anyway - but how would that be for a new start to 2007.

Good on ya and good luck with your oz interview x

sme Dec 20th 2006 7:48 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 
Off Thread but Tallman67 are you 40 next year ?:)

tallbloke67 Dec 20th 2006 8:00 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by sme
Off Thread but Tallman67 are you 40 next year ?:)


Oh yes I am. Is that good or bad I ask myself or is it just a number?

sme Dec 20th 2006 8:02 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Oh yes I am. Is that good or bad I ask myself or is it just a number?


Being 40 next year myself - I would have to say its just a number;) :D

Buzzy--Bee Dec 20th 2006 8:12 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 
I'm debating how much notice to give myself.

I don't want to hand in my notice before March 28th as that day I get my annual bonus in my pay packet. But I'm not intending to leave until May 31st and I'm on 4 weeks notice.

If I hand in my notice March 29th can they make me leave 4 weeks later? I'd be surprised if they did anyway as we're short staffed but you can never be too careful...

:beer:

Buzzy

tallbloke67 Dec 20th 2006 8:28 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
I'm debating how much notice to give myself.

I don't want to hand in my notice before March 28th as that day I get my annual bonus in my pay packet. But I'm not intending to leave until May 31st and I'm on 4 weeks notice.

If I hand in my notice March 29th can they make me leave 4 weeks later? I'd be surprised if they did anyway as we're short staffed but you can never be too careful...

:beer:

Buzzy

Buzzy-Bee

Surely you are still working for your company up to and including the day you leave right. They cannot withdraw a bonus from your salary. If you get the bonus the day you hand your notice in then wait until one hour prior to close of business then hand it in. It will be good to see the expression their faces.

LOL big time!!!!

Buzzy--Bee Dec 20th 2006 8:29 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Buzzy-Bee

Surely you are still working for your company up to and including the day you leave right. They cannot withdraw a bonus from your salary. If you get the bonus the day you hand your notice in then wait until one hour prior to close of business then hand it in. It will be good to see the expression their faces.

LOL big time!!!!


The bonus is considered an ex-gratia payment and as such can be withdrawn at any time. So best to be sure, hey....

:beer:

Buzzy

DWT Dec 20th 2006 8:46 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
The bonus is considered an ex-gratia payment and as such can be withdrawn at any time. So best to be sure, hey....

:beer:

Buzzy


I handed my notice in last Friday on the day my annual bonus was paid. I had planned to hand it in a week earlier, but then read my employee handbook - watch out for small print! As Buzzy says bonus is considered discretionary and in my company as soon as you notify them that you are leaving you are no longer entitled to it, even if you happen to be working your notice period when it is paid.

Problem in my case was that I have to give 5 weeks notice and had worked out my flight date to Melbourne based on the original date I planned to hand notice, now I have to take unpaid leave at the end of my notice period so I can make the flight.

Still, at least I got the bonus :)

Buzzy--Bee Dec 20th 2006 8:54 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 
My question really is -

If I give them more notice than I legally have to (8 weeks instead of 4) can they make me leave after 4, thereby doing me out of 4 weeks pay?

:beer:

Buzzy

DWT Dec 20th 2006 9:01 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
My question really is -

If I give them more notice than I legally have to (8 weeks instead of 4) can they make me leave after 4, thereby doing me out of 4 weeks pay?

:beer:

Buzzy

I would have thought yes, your contract is a legal agreement so they only have to give you the 4 weeks. But it might depend on how flexible your company and your manager is, they may welcome the extra time to find a suitable replacement especially if you can help in the recruitment process. But then I also know of other companies that put people on Gardening Leave as soon as they hand in their notice, only you can really judge their potential response.

Buzzy--Bee Dec 20th 2006 9:03 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by DWT
I would have thought yes, your contract is a legal agreement so they only have to give you the 4 weeks. But it might depend on how flexible your company and your manager is, they may welcome the extra time to find a suitable replacement especially if you can help in the recruitment process. But then I also know of other companies that put people on Gardening Leave as soon as they hand in their notice, only you can really judge their potential response.

Hah! Don't care about gardening leave - would welcome the opportunity to get some stuff done.

I should have said - could they stop paying me after the 4 weeks?

:beer:

Buzzy

CMR Dec 20th 2006 9:08 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
I have had telephone interviews thus far with one company. It seems very promising and the recruit agent is getting positive feedback from the company. No tickets as yet as we exchange end of Jan with house so until then we are in 'limbo'. There is a sense of Deja Vu here again as we were in limbo with not putting the house on the market and not having the visa. Oh well all that has now been resolved. Still only two weeks until I hand my notice in.

Thanks for your advice all.

Martin

Martin

What's your profession? I'm in IT and am heading to Perth roughly the same time as you and I was wondering how you managed to get a job interview so far ahead of travelling. I've been looking at seek.com.au but (reading between the lines) all the jobs on there seem to want people already in the country.

Did you just contact an agency directly?

CMR

brido Dec 20th 2006 9:09 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Hello All

I am struggling to decide when to hand my notice in. I would like to leave my job mid Feb as we are to be in Perth not long after, but I hate my job and yearn for the day to be in Oz. If I hand my notice in tomorrow, Friday, it will lift a great deal of pressure off of my shoulders.

I am required to give four weeks notice but I would prefer to give six as this gives them time to find a replacement. I have had one interview and am having the second in the new year.

Martin

Hi Martin,
I was going to give 6 weeks notice until i realised i was to work New Years Day.I gave my company 4 weeks and i finish up next Friday morning. :D
I love my job and appart from Emigrating,i'd never have left it.You will feel a great deal of relief when you hand in your notice as even i did,and you'll enjoy your last few weeks that bit more.

We are not flying out until 4 weeks later but i will be busy with shippers,moving/selling furniture,leaving party and seeing friends and relatives.
Never mind work,just make sure you have enough time for yourself to do everything required before you go without cramming it all in and getting stressed.

Good luck with the move

Brido :)

GinaUK Dec 20th 2006 10:13 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by tallbloke67
Hello All

I am struggling to decide when to hand my notice in. I would like to leave my job mid Feb as we are to be in Perth not long after, but I hate my job and yearn for the day to be in Oz. If I hand my notice in tomorrow, Friday, it will lift a great deal of pressure off of my shoulders.

If you can afford financially to stop working a bit earlier, then hand in your notice tomorrow - and then enjoy the extra time off :) .

Gina

Brisben Dec 20th 2006 10:19 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 
I have been deliberating this point for some time, I haven't sold my house yet but hope it will sell quickly in early 2007, I am a production manager so am needed, I like to think so anyway... I am going to informally give my boss as much notice as possible so they can train someone else and also so it doesn't impact my boss too much, apart from financially .. This will allow someone else to transition into my job with minimal impact and hope it is seen favourably when I ask for a reference ;) I suppose it depends on your relationship with your boss !

kiwi_child Dec 20th 2006 11:07 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
My question really is -

If I give them more notice than I legally have to (8 weeks instead of 4) can they make me leave after 4, thereby doing me out of 4 weeks pay?

:beer:

Buzzy

Technically, I would have to say yes they can. Theyc an simply say to you: Thanks for the extra notice but it's not necessary, so we'll take as 4 weeks from today :)

kiwi_child Dec 20th 2006 11:12 pm

Re: When to hand notice in?
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
Hah!
I should have said - could they stop paying me after the 4 weeks?

:beer:

Buzzy

The answer is yes, if they tell you when you hand in your notice that 4 weeks is just fine and ty for offering the extended notice. Unlikely a bonus would be taken back I would have thought as long as you have complied with the terms of your contract.


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